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Town had to pay back 3 million dollars for illegally citing people.
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Town had to pay back 3 million dollars for illegally citing people.
Illegal because Supreme Court said so.
I still believe that if you speed you should pay

my whole principal is, if you let people break rules with no consequences it won’t stop just at speeding. We need to have punishments enforced everytime for everyone equally
 
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My cars toot along at 100+ effortlessly - which happens about every time I'm on the freeway. The problem is when you have buttholes going slow in the left hand lane fucking things up for everybody. If we could drive as well as Europeans, the traffic would flow so much better and safer.

To quote a bumper sticker from the 70s: "Ban low performance drivers, not high performance cars".
 

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I'd love to see what specifically is unconstitutional. What right is being violated?
I'm thinking you meant to put this in this thread.

The right to face your accuser. To name one.
 

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...addiction is right.
A few years back when I still read a newspaper, a column was written
about the NCSHP cracking down on the instances of drivers speeding
in excess of 100 mph.
Seemed hefty fines did little to dissuade speeding.

The article went on to say that the instances had increased 157% in
the last few years with no sign of slowing down (no pun intended)
Anyway, in the car, it seems folk want to go as fast as they possibly can.
If we're on a 2 lane road, I'll pull over and let speeders go on by. I try
not to impede anyone, even when we are on the Harley.
 

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...addiction is right.
A few years back when I still read a newspaper, a column was written
about the NCSHP cracking down on the instances of drivers speeding
in excess of 100 mph.
Seemed hefty fines did little to dissuade speeding.

The article went on to say that the instances had increased 157% in
the last few years with no sign of slowing down (no pun intended)
Anyway, in the car, it seems folk want to go as fast as they possibly can.
If we're on a 2 lane road, I'll pull over and let speeders go on by. I try
not to impede anyone, even when we are on the Harley.
Pull over? dontcha know you are supposed to move over and go 99mph instead of doing the speed limit? you are a hazard in speeder eyes, not them. I am being sarcastic, but I know some people here think that. oh and if you get pulled over, its not your fault, you was just flowing with traffic, and the speed limits are unfair.
 

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I find the title of the thread most amusing. Yup we damn Americans are always ruining things. For ass_hats, that could not handle driving a covered wagon.
Driving is like playing chess these days, watching, waiting, moving, cool heads prevail.


Good one, so much truth its scary, LMAO

"Ban low performance drivers, not high performance cars".
 

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Pull over? dontcha know you are supposed to move over and go 99mph instead of doing the speed limit? you are a hazard in speeder eyes, not them. I am being sarcastic, but I know some people here think that. oh and if you get pulled over, its not your fault, you was just flowing with traffic, and the speed limits are unfair.
...haha!!
Years back my 18 yo niece got pulled for 96 in a 65 zone.
She went to court and they gave her a 'prayer for judgement'.

My brother (her dad) said; "thats just Angel."
She was late for work, so she hit the gas and was REALLY late.
 

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...haha!!
Years back my 18 yo niece got pulled for 96 in a 65 zone.
She went to court and they gave her a 'prayer for judgement'.

My brother (her dad) said; "thats just Angel."
She was late for work, so she hit the gas and was REALLY late.
I assume prayer for judgement is a deferral, meaning doesnt hit the record if you pay the fines and dont get in trouble for a probationary amount of time. I rarely hear about those given out. Not even sure if my area gives them out.
 

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I assume prayer for judgement is a deferral, meaning doesnt hit the record if you pay the fines and dont get in trouble for a probationary amount of time. I rarely hear about those given out. Not even sure if my area gives them out.
Pretty common in Arizona. I've had 5 tickets (IIRC) in the last 40 years. I beat 4 in court, 1 with an attorney the rest on my own when I saw how to do it. But the other was at a court far up-state and I had doubts about winning (ticket was for passing with an oncoming deputy worried I wouldn't clear the traffic before getting to him. LoL), so I took a class to keep it off the record.
 

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I assume prayer for judgement is a deferral, meaning doesnt hit the record if you pay the fines and dont get in trouble for a probationary amount of time. I rarely hear about those given out. Not even sure if my area gives them out.
...Si.........:like:
 

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Pretty common in Arizona. I've had 5 tickets (IIRC) in the last 40 years. I beat 4 in court, 1 with an attorney the rest on my own when I saw how to do it. But the other was at a court far up-state and I had doubts about winning (ticket was for passing with an oncoming deputy worried I wouldn't clear the traffic before getting to him. LoL), so I took a class to keep it off the record.
is it up to the judge? or is the court legally required to give you a deferral if you ask for it, assuming your record is clean? just curious
 

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is it up to the judge? or is the court legally required to give you a deferral if you ask for it, assuming your record is clean? just curious
...all my Brother told me was they offered it(PFJ) to Angel.
I didn't know the particulars.......................:whew:
 

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is it up to the judge? or is the court legally required to give you a deferral if you ask for it, assuming your record is clean? just curious
I suspect a judge could refuse but it was well known to be available. Could only be done once every x years. I could have done it for the 4 tickets I beat in court since they were so far apart but in those cases I was innocent so not that hard to get the LEO to contradict himself or say things that can't both be true when his story was exaggerated or accidentally or intentionally false. Probably stupid to assume justice would prevail considering all the stories you hear about kangaroo traffic courts. That and testing karma since I had been guilty of other things with no witnesses. LoL
 

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Tickets are primarily about revenue. Deferrals exist to encourage people to not fight the ticket. If everyone fought tickets the system would implode. Usually it results in even more court fees, you just don’t get the points. From the perspective of wanting to rake in as much money as possible from occasional offenders it makes too much sense not to offer.
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