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Edelbrock Stage 2 Canned tune w/larger pulley?

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Three Whipples blew up in canned tuning in the last 4 months?
Not exactly a warm and fuzzy feeling there either...
Excellent point.
Did Whipple offer a warranty then screw anyone over? nope.
12:1 + FI leaves little room for fuel variance: my opinion is Whipple is more realistic about that than EB.

Get ready for all the hurt FI motors from winter fuel mix changes...
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Excellent point.
Did Whipple offer a warranty then screw anyone over? nope.
12:1 + FI leaves little room for fuel variance: my opinion is Whipple is more realistic about that than EB.

Get ready for all the hurt FI motors from winter fuel mix changes...
Well one this that's positive, Whipple stood behind the issues..EB didnt screw anyone over, and u can run their canned tune safety but imho regardless of setup I'd still run an octane booster in my car just to be safe especially as u said with the bad winter gas....
 

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following this thread...interesting... I am running the stage 2 blower on my 19 GT with 91 octane fuel here in California . Runs perfectly on the canned Edelbrock tune .
Your experience is impressive. For whatever reason, it seems that many people with the EB tune complain of surging and/or stalling.
 

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Very impressive, no booster, just straight 91
Stymee: correct- straight 91 without octane booster. Was thinking of trying to add either some booster or mix in some 101 gas to see if anything noticeable. I could load the Edelbrock 93 canned tune, but dont really need the hassle of trying to find the required gas. 91 is the standard out here, but there are 2 VP stations each 35 miles away that sell the 101 octane.
 

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He will not tune 2018+ models with those injectors.
Last time I talked to Shaun (he did all of my NA tuning) he mentioned he would not tune 18+ FI without straight e85 or race fuel regardless of the injectors. I wonder if he has since changed that?
 
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Stymee: correct- straight 91 without octane booster. Was thinking of trying to add either some booster or mix in some 101 gas to see if anything noticeable. I could load the Edelbrock 93 canned tune, but dont really need the hassle of trying to find the required gas. 91 is the standard out here, but there are 2 VP stations each 35 miles away that sell the 101 octane.
Might be worth a try, mix 101 and 91 and add the 93 tune
 

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Your experience is impressive. For whatever reason, it seems that many people with the EB tune complain of surging and/or stalling.
When coming off of idle and into some throttle there is a little surge forward as boost builds, but no bucking surging or anything else. As for stalling there was some throttle body issues that Edlbrock is aware of and they will take care of you should this happen.
 
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Last time I talked to Shaun (he did all of my NA tuning) he mentioned he would not tune 18+ FI without straight e85 or race fuel regardless of the injectors. I wonder if he has since changed that?

More and more tuners r saying this, wow these canned tuned forced induction setups on 91/93 must be really tame
 

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Might be worth a try, mix 101 and 91 and add the 93 tune
True, but Edelbrock tunes are specifically crafted around regularly available pump gas, which has different specifications, so there is def. some risk.
 

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True, but Edelbrock tunes are specifically crafted around regularly available pump gas, which has different specifications, so there is def. some risk.
The EB tech told me adding some octane will help, so mixing is the way to go
 

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Last time I talked to Shaun (he did all of my NA tuning) he mentioned he would not tune 18+ FI without straight e85 or race fuel regardless of the injectors. I wonder if he has since changed that?
Exactly what he told me.
 

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So others are getting that slight hesitation or buck with stage 2 when you step on the gas?
 

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Well one this that's positive, Whipple stood behind the issues..EB didnt screw anyone over, and u can run their canned tune safety but imho regardless of setup I'd still run an octane booster in my car just to be safe especially as u said with the bad winter gas....
Screwed over== all these EB stage 2 guys that had to give up on canned tune and pay for Lund.
Then Lund said no tune until you get a smaller pulley so more money.
Then EB runs out of smaller pulleys so more money more time wasted.
12-13psi on 11:1 2015-17 allowed for fuel inconsistency.
12+ on 12:1 2018+ is very risky on 93. On 91 its negligent.
Constantly adding octane booster means your setup is wrong for the fuel.

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Screwed over== all these EB stage 2 guys that had to give up on canned tune and pay for Lund.
Then Lund said no tune until you get a smaller pulley so more money.
Then EB runs out of smaller pulleys so more money more time wasted.
12-13psi on 11:1 2015-17 allowed for fuel inconsistency.
12+ on 12:1 2018+ is very risky on 93. On 91 its negligent.
Constantly adding octane booster means your setup is wrong for the fuel.

I totally agree, that’s why I said I would add octane or octane booster to a Stage 2
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