If you believe the ZR1 is faster than a Ford GT because an amateur in one was faster than an amateur in another on a open track day, I have nothing for you. And I can show you countless videos of Miatas passing all sorts of exotics, but that does not make a Miata faster car.
Can you post up some actual performance test numbers? Thanks!
Excellent, you must have seen the performance tests too. I guess I missed them, are they online? Links? Which publications? Thanks!
Yep. I've owned a few Vettes and dealers __never__ get base, "no frills" models, usually it's 2LT or 3LT trim packages, plus a scattering of options like Z51. It winds up being cheaper (or the same price) to get a more optioned car off the lot for a discount, vs. ordering a "stripper".
There's some kind of "uncanny valley" thing going on with the design. It's got all the basic mid-engine design elements, it's low, flat, has big side ducts, plus some Vette-esque touches, mostly carry forward design language from the C7 (which in itself, lost some of the Vette vibe), but there's some kind of weird proportion thing that's just not working for me yet. Might be one of those hard to photograph cars where it __has__ to be seen in person.
I guess you can repeat yourself till you're BITF and this pretty simple concept will still be lost on some people.
But the C7 was already 50/50 weight distribution. Anyways, all ME/RE cars do is push through corners unless you brake really early, but you accelerate outta the corner sooner. Whereas a FE you can brake late, carry more speed though the corner, but accelerate out of the corner later. Always a compromise between FE/ME/RE setups. no one is perfect. The Viper ARC is close however. Personally I hate pushing through corners. I'd rather have the ass slide around it. I don't think this thing will be any quicker around Nurburgring.
Actually, big volume dealers like MacMulkin and Les Stanford, Kerbeck, and a few others get a lot of no optioned 1LTs because that's how a lot of people can get into a Vette. Also, you can factory order from them all day long with courtesy delivery and get that stripper Vette no problem.Yep. I've owned a few Vettes and dealers __never__ get base, "no frills" models, usually it's 2LT or 3LT trim packages, plus a scattering of options like Z51. It winds up being cheaper (or the same price) to get a more optioned car off the lot for a discount, vs. ordering a "stripper".
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I wish I had some numbers but I don’t. I will tell you what I do know.
and 4300lb gt500 with fluids so !! GT500 needs 760 hp ...not to mentiion they wen 7 speed dsg vs 8 speed and there gear ratios in the DSG 7 speed are near identical to the old 6 speed ford auto of 2011-2014 with 4th being 1;1 .. this new GT500 is PURE RUBBISH!!!
You read too much into my comment. I was just simply saying it's going to be a little heavier. Had no other intent. Heck saw that others posted it first which is why I deleted it. Actually I'm excited for the c8
Probst ran both the Ford GT and ZR1 at Willow springs. His time in the GT was 1:23.69 and his time in the ZR1 was 1:23.70. So in a pros hand, there times are equal. But one cost $500,000 and the other is $130,000
This is a joke right ? Have you watched Le Mans at least once ? If you have, how did you miss all those Corvettes running in it ????
Different days.
Didn’t Fords own GT racer get a record time at VIR then a few weeks later the ZR1 beat it?