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OK,...
First off, sorry its been so long since I have been on here... we have been crazy busy. All you boost junkies been ordering kits like crazy and we been also cranking out CARB EO items. But... anyways.
First things first... Is the MAF signal better in a tube, then the intercooler?
100% absolutely not. The intercooler location is one of the most stable signals you will ever get, when done correctly.
Often to get the same level of signal stability in a tube being blown through, requires honeycomb structures or air straighteners.
(yes, sometimes it works out... but with tight engine bays it's hard)
So...why the change for the MAF location?
#1 reason.....
Because people kept changing bypass valves and adding wastegates.
Every single time a person changes what kinda bypass valve they have, or the location of that bypass valve... it changed how the air enters the intercooler. Well, when the air enters different, then that changes how to flows across the core, and thus how it goes across the MAF sensor. What's that mean? That means every change in airflow would require a tune revision... (literally change your bypass valve, you would need to change tune)
Now with the MAF being relocated into a special tube, you can place whatever bypass valve you want onto your charge tube, or the pressure side of the intercooler! And no matter what bypass valve you run, there is no reason for a tune revision change. Making it easier for YOU, and for your TUNER
#2 reason....
Less tunes needed for people doing remote tuning.
Previously tuners had to have (3) different mass air curves for our systems on the S550 chassis... (HO intercooler, STG2 intercooler, GT350 intercooler) Whereas now, they will have 1 single MAF sensor table, no matter what system the customer has. That helps speed up the tuning process, now and down the road.
My personal 2018 Mustang... still has the MAF in the intercooler. Will I ever change it? Nope... no reason to.
Do I like the new location for my customers? Absolutely... its a win-win for everyone.
Hopefully that clears it up.
Erik
PS: The new tube isn't just a tube.... it actually got a special honeycomb structure built into it, to try make the MAF signal as stable as it was in the intercooler. The tube isn't fun to make, and it isn't cheap either lol.
First off, sorry its been so long since I have been on here... we have been crazy busy. All you boost junkies been ordering kits like crazy and we been also cranking out CARB EO items. But... anyways.
First things first... Is the MAF signal better in a tube, then the intercooler?
100% absolutely not. The intercooler location is one of the most stable signals you will ever get, when done correctly.
Often to get the same level of signal stability in a tube being blown through, requires honeycomb structures or air straighteners.
(yes, sometimes it works out... but with tight engine bays it's hard)
So...why the change for the MAF location?
#1 reason.....
Because people kept changing bypass valves and adding wastegates.
Every single time a person changes what kinda bypass valve they have, or the location of that bypass valve... it changed how the air enters the intercooler. Well, when the air enters different, then that changes how to flows across the core, and thus how it goes across the MAF sensor. What's that mean? That means every change in airflow would require a tune revision... (literally change your bypass valve, you would need to change tune)
Now with the MAF being relocated into a special tube, you can place whatever bypass valve you want onto your charge tube, or the pressure side of the intercooler! And no matter what bypass valve you run, there is no reason for a tune revision change. Making it easier for YOU, and for your TUNER
#2 reason....
Less tunes needed for people doing remote tuning.
Previously tuners had to have (3) different mass air curves for our systems on the S550 chassis... (HO intercooler, STG2 intercooler, GT350 intercooler) Whereas now, they will have 1 single MAF sensor table, no matter what system the customer has. That helps speed up the tuning process, now and down the road.
My personal 2018 Mustang... still has the MAF in the intercooler. Will I ever change it? Nope... no reason to.
Do I like the new location for my customers? Absolutely... its a win-win for everyone.
Hopefully that clears it up.
Erik
PS: The new tube isn't just a tube.... it actually got a special honeycomb structure built into it, to try make the MAF signal as stable as it was in the intercooler. The tube isn't fun to make, and it isn't cheap either lol.
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