2020 GT500 Governed Top Speed of 180MPH

[cosmic charlie]

If Ford wanted to compete with the ZL1 then why the limitation of 180mph. Makes no sense. The ZL1 is at 198mph.

Maybe they are afraid of the Zion Williamson effect due to the weight. Hundreds of college basketball kids wear Nike sneakers every day and they are fine. You put 270lb Zion Williamson in the same shoes and it's blow out time! They are still yet to say how heavy this thing is going to be.

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[Hack]

Technical Specs
443 hp Max. power
3.5 s 0 - 60 mph
3.3 s 0 - 60 mph with Sport Chrono Package
191 mph Top track speed
72.9 in Width w/ mirrors folded
177.9 in Length

I don't know. It will be interesting how it compares with something like this. By the time the dealers tack on the ADM"s it will probably come close to the 119,000.00 the 2020 911S is priced at. (which is down over 250hp to the GT500) Funny the 911 has no problem going over 190mph.

That 911 is very slippery. It probably has the active rear spoiler that comes up at speed, but there are very few aerodynamic aids. The GT500 is a huge brick by comparison.

Well much of that article may be true, however the track I frequent must be the oddball. If i can slowly creep up to 175ish in an R, I think a car with more torque and HP could do a hell of a lot better. Wow, so it really was an arbitrary number and really wasn't attributable to any particular limitation. Smh.

It sounds to me like something a lawyer or legal team would think up to avoid some kind of product liability down the road.

If the GT500 had the same aerodynamic treatments and the same cooling requirements as the GT350, I would agree. However, that huge grill and hood opening; the splitter; wing; etc. all will make a difference. And incrementally higher speeds require a lot more power.

I'm not 100% convinced, but in my opinion it is possible that the GT500 gets up to speed very quickly, but somewhere south of 180 mph it is done. I remember watching the ZL1 1LE on the 'ring and being surprised at how low its top speed is on the straights.

 

[Timeless]

Have you ever seen a blowout on track before on a street car? It's not exactly a pretty sight. I'm not saying I agree or disagree but I would have to think considering data gathering these days, it's not completely out of the ballpark of a reasonable concern.

Think about some drag tires. They're rated for "over 100" MPH but manufacturers say to use them at high speeds only on a prepped surface. Z rated tires means they're rated for over 149MPH but don't specify how much. It's actually kinda on you if you kill one. W is 168. The Challenger Demon is limited to 160 something MPH because those tires are not suitable for sustained speeds over that.

Oh I agree it is not pretty. The real question is why would Ford put such a limiting factor on a halo car? It's not like they don't make tires rated for higher speeds...and it's not like it would make a big hit to the cost of the car.

 

[V00D00]

You never mentioned 1/4 mile in the other post and you're assuming it'll only trap 130mph in the 1/4.

what tracks are capable letting one hitting 180mph with a car that does 130mph stock?


minimal. a simple tune, hell a $2 resistor eliminates a top speed

You can add 30mph from the 1/4 to get a 1/2 mile mph. Reverse it, 180-30=150. Do you think a stock gt500 will hit 150mph in the 1/4?
So logic states, very few places will even allow a car to hit 180mph, let-alone a stock one, which is the case here. to go above and beyond, you will need a tune, which eliminates ANY governed top speed argument

 

[Tomster]

You can add 30mph from the 1/4 to get a 1/2 mile mph. Reverse it, 180-30=150. Do you think a stock gt500 will hit 150mph in the 1/4?
So logic states, very few places will even allow a car to hit 180mph, let-alone a stock one, which is the case here. to go above and beyond, you will need a tune, which eliminates ANY governed top speed argument

I wasn't aware of any tracks that have speed limits. The argument that I think you are making is that there are very few tracks where you can attain 180MPH. There are tracks where this speed could be (and are) attained, but I guess Ford sees them as far and few between and are insignificant.

So, it was a decision by Ford and it is a take it or leave it proposition. I'm still interested.

 

[V00D00]

I wasn't aware of any tracks that have speed limits. The argument that I think you are making is that there are very few tracks where you can attain 180MPH. There are tracks where this speed could be (and are) attained, but I guess Ford sees them as far and few between and are insignificant.

So, it was a decision by Ford and it is a take it or leave it proposition. I'm still interested.

I meant allow a in designed to allow. the course is designed with high sped turn into a long enough straight away and a exiting turn that could be taken at significant speed.

 

[Tomster]

Brilliant observation (staying off of the brakes). I remember seeing this video a few years ago, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbpzslRUipY . At Daytona, Corey Friedman in a 911 RSR lost his right rear @180+, watch his right leg.
FWIW, I've never run Daytona, but it's on the bucket list.

Its something that a lot of people don't think of, and when it happens, instinctively adding braking can aggrivate the situation. I feel that (aside from the subsequent damage due to the delamination) you have an exaggerated differential drag condition that needs to be corrected with the (slight) application of throttle as opposed to hitting the brakes and aggrivating the differential drag.

Most of those YouTube tire delamination videos end in a spinout with a bruised ego and a damaged car. My concern would be a high speed head on crash into a wall. Maybe keeping the speeds down with a speed limiter defers liability? I don't know, but its a take it or leave it deal.

 

[Tomster]

I meant allow a in designed to allow. the course is designed with high sped turn into a long enough straight away and a exiting turn that could be taken at significant speed.

You mean like running into Daytona turn 3 out of the backstretch at near 175MPH? Yea, if you are not ready for it, it could be wall city. It was a bit unnerving, but you get used to it.

 

[likeaboss]

I'm not buying the tires requiring the speed limitation as the Cup 2 and 4s can handle 200+ MPH.

 

[Tomster]

I'm not buying the tires requiring the speed limitation as the Cup 2 and 4s can handle 200+ MPH.

Yes, I agree with you. I made that point in post #68. However there are different specs for cup 2's.

I'm leaning on the theory that it is the legal department or they don't want one version to be faster than the other. Why limit it at all is My point. Let it be.

 

[likeaboss]

Yes, I agree with you. I made that point in post #68. However there are different specs for cup 2's.

I'm leaning on the theory that it is the legal department or they don't want one version to be faster than the other. Why limit it at all is My point. Let it be.

Which would be crazy for them to do. Chevy doesn't do that with the Camaro and Corvette where the models/trims with more downforce have lower top speeds. I wouldn't be surprised the "base" GT500 has a higher top speed when it's all said and done.

 

[Tomster]

Which would be crazy for them to do. Chevy doesn't do that with the Camaro and Corvette where the models/trims with more downforce have lower top speeds. I wouldn't be surprised the "base" GT500 has a higher top speed when it's all said and done.

Yes, and that was one of the reasons stated in the article. They didn't want the lower priced model to be faster (and it would be). So they made them all equal. I don't agree, but again, it's a take it or leave it deal. The difference between 180 and ? (who knows what the CF top end speed would be anyway) isn't going to make a huge difference in lap times (on a few tracks) I suspect. However the concept of limiting one models top end speed for the sake of protecting the desireability of anothers? Well...

 

[02gtnh]

What track could the gt500 even reach 180mph? The 755hp zr1 only got 170 at road Atlanta with Probst behind the wheel.

 

[rick81721]

Yes, and that was one of the reasons stated in the article. They didn't want the lower priced model to be faster (and it would be). So they made them all equal. I don't agree, but again, it's a take it or leave it deal. The difference between 180 and ? (who knows what the CF top end speed would be anyway) isn't going to make a huge difference in lap times (on a few tracks) I suspect. However the concept of limiting one models top end speed for the sake of protecting the desireability of anothers? Well...

I'm curious - is this a deal-breaker for you?

 

[Tomster]

I'm curious - is this a deal-breaker for you?

No.

But since we all really have nothing else to talk about, I figured why not explore this topic until conclusion. Again, this is a take it or leave it deal.

This is in no way a bash, but an interesting topic of discussion. Isn't it interesting how the 500 will be speed governed?

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