MT '19 Car of the Year Nomination

[VinnAY]

By my experience with my 15, they're right. That IRS and its subframe mounting is just awful. I had to put at least a Grand under there is Steeda bits to make it perform. And yes even on some otherwise smooth pavement the rear end would bob up and down with the poor damping and rebound.

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[raydog1]

“Mark Rechtin had the convertible collapse into limp-home mode in less than two laps of the circuit.”

That’s just embarrassing. Not a good look for Ford or the Mustang no matter the bias of the publication.

 

[jake_zx2]

I really don't understand the comments on the price of the car. Really, tell me another car out there other than the Camaro that will give you this kind of performance while also having a quality interior for less than $50k

 

[thehunterooo]

I really don't understand the comments on the price of the car. Really, tell me another car out there other than the Camaro that will give you this kind of performance while also having a quality interior for less than $50k

I really don't understand the comments on the price of the car. Really, tell me another car out there other than the Camaro that will give you this kind of performance while also having a quality interior for less than $50k

You can get a SS 1LE for under 40k brand new that’s why!

 

[Ace]

MSRP for 1SS 1LE and Base GT PP2 are both around $45, not under $40k. But it's kind of funny how most people say the 2016 Camaro was too expensive, but now that the Mustang increased the pricing to a similiar level the understanding that $50k is a lot of money for a car is gone.

I really don't understand the comments on the price of the car. Really, tell me another car out there other than the Camaro that will give you this kind of performance while also having a quality interior for less than $50k

Absolutely agree, a Golf R does not have a better interior. Of course you can't compare it to premium brands.

 

[EcoVert]

MSRP for 1SS 1LE and Base GT PP2 are both around $45, not under $40k. But it's kind of funny how most people say the 2016 Camaro was too expensive, but now that the Mustang increased the pricing to a similiar level the understanding that $50k is a lot of money for a car is gone..

And Mustang is still kicking camaros ass in sales.

 

[Hack]

MSRP for 1SS 1LE and Base GT PP2 are both around $45, not under $40k. But it's kind of funny how most people say the 2016 Camaro was too expensive, but now that the Mustang increased the pricing to a similiar level the understanding that $50k is a lot of money for a car is gone.

I agree $50k is a lot of money, but if I were reviewing a car I would be comparing that price to the competition. I'm not sure what else I can get that is a 2 door, front engine, RWD performance vehicle with a V8 for a lot less money. And the GT starts at around $36K, so if cost is a huge deal to the buyer the car is available for a lot less money.

I think Mustang prices are on par with the competition, so I really don't understand the criticism in a car review.

 

[IPOGT]

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Anyone else notice. MT refuses to test a 10 speed auto?

They probably already did....... in the Camaro.

 

[cosmic charlie]

I really don't understand the comments on the price of the car. Really, tell me another car out there other than the Camaro that will give you this kind of performance while also having a quality interior for less than $50k

Focus RS. But it depends what you mean by "this kind of performance"? If you mean a car that can compete with cars that cost twice as much, then there you go.

 

[RaceHorseV8]

All auto magazine writers are basically jaded after a short while and they decide what blows their skirts up. Generalmotors trend is no exception. To base YOUR car buying decision on their review would be mostly a mistake. I mean how can you figure out what being harsh and bumpy even on smooth roads means? That is an absurd statement. Throw in personal biases and magazine reviews are anything but objective. Ford has no doubt made the decision, probably for financial reasons, to put uber-strict limits on temperatures of various parts. It looks like they have gone way too far because tripping a sensor alert in 2 track laps is ridiculous.
Everyone has to decide what they want in a car and do the research and test drives to make sure they're getting what fulfills those needs. I wouldn't want to drive a ZR1 Corvette as a DD car but on the track, yeah baby. For me the bottom line is that no single car does, or should be expected to, fulfill every driving need. You need at least 2 cars and a truck/SUV type vehicle IMHO but then you have to bring money into the discussion...

 

[McGruder]

By my experience with my 15, they're right. That IRS and its subframe mounting is just awful. I had to put at least a Grand under there is Steeda bits to make it perform. And yes even on some otherwise smooth pavement the rear end would bob up and down with the poor damping and rebound.

I think the 18/19s have some suspension mods from Ford that are supposed to make it perform better than 15-17s. I wouldn't know to what degree the issues your referring to have been addressed by that.

That said, I test drove an 18 GT with the MT tranny on a 45 degree day. The tires quickly broke loose on a mildly spirited left turn taking off from a light. Traction control quickly took over (fortunately) so it wasn't a disaster. At the time I just attributed the traction loss to how the Michelin PS 4S tires behave on cold pavement. Not sure if it could be argued that this was caused more by the IRS and sub frame mounting than the summer tires. However, this is why I'm thinking I'll run the Michelin PS 3 A/S+ to have better low temperature performance.

 

[Fatguy]

Guys. The people at Motor Trend are not fools. If you think they are giving the current Mustang the “Car of the Year” award you are crazy. They just gave you the official reasons but they know about all the others (including the tick and other quality control problems). To make this car COTY with all the issues it has would wreck the reputation of the publication.


The best selling sports car in the world goes into limo mode before finishing 2 laps at their track. Yup, didn’t make it to two laps! Ford has some work to do. But don’t blame them at MT. There are other publications I’m sure that talk about the shortcomings of this car on the track. Let’s get real here.

 

[jake_zx2]

Focus RS. But it depends what you mean by "this kind of performance"? If you mean a car that can compete with cars that cost twice as much, then there you go.

By "this kind of performance", I simply mean raw numbers. Lap times, 0-60, 1/4 mile, lateral Gs, etc.

The FoRS comes nowhere near the 2018 in any of those aspects, and does not have near as good interior quality. It's a decent car for it's segment, but no competition for the Mustang

Guys. The people at Motor Trend are not fools. If you think they are giving the current Mustang the “Car of the Year” award you are crazy. They just gave you the official reasons but they know about all the others (including the tick and other quality control problems). To make this car COTY with all the issues it has would wreck the reputation of the publication.


The best selling sports car in the world goes into limo mode before finishing 2 laps at their track. Yup, didn’t make it to two laps! Ford has some work to do. But don’t blame them at MT. There are other publications I’m sure that talk about the shortcomings of this car on the track. Let’s get real here.

I always love seeing your absurd statement trying to cut down GTs

 

[Fatguy]

I always love seeing your absurd statement trying to cut down GTs

It’s a strange “love/hate” relationship in the Mustang community. Like a girl I once dated; truly messed up in the head but she could cook and the sex was alright. With me the cooking is the big thing. Yup Iif she can cook - I overlook EVERYTHING!


Looks may age. Sex may whither. But if she can cook - you - are set for life!

 

[BmacIL]

I think the 18/19s have some suspension mods from Ford that are supposed to make it perform better than 15-17s. I wouldn't know to what degree the issues your referring to have been addressed by that.

That said, I test drove an 18 GT with the MT tranny on a 45 degree day. The tires quickly broke loose on a mildly spirited left turn taking off from a light. Traction control quickly took over (fortunately) so it wasn't a disaster. At the time I just attributed the traction loss to how the Michelin PS 4S tires behave on cold pavement. Not sure if it could be argued that this was caused more by the IRS and sub frame mounting than the summer tires. However, this is why I'm thinking I'll run the Michelin PS 3 A/S+ to have better low temperature performance.

Other than minor damper tuning changes, nope.

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