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I'm certainly not the biggest fan of Trump either, but you do realize he went to a very prestigious school of economics, to which you simply CANNOT enter without an IQ of at least 140, no matter how much money you have (his Dad's money). Trump has had his IQ actually tested to just a hair over 150 IQ. He may behave like a bumbling idiot most of the time, but he actually has a very high IQ, and is one of the most well educated Presidents in history. Generally, John Adams, Jefferson, and Kennedy had the highest IQ's of all Presidents. Technically, Trumps education and measured IQ puts him in the top ten.
He can't compose a sentence, or even read a teleprompter with any fluidity. That's sad.
If you really want to talk about competence and basic comprehension, the fact that I just explained to you actual facts, and you refuse to acknowledge it, tells me more about you than Trump.

Fact: Donald Trump has a measured IQ just over 150.
Fact: Trump has a very hard time talking in front of crowds, which is very common of high IQ people. You obviously didn't read the part about Einstein. He was a brilliant genius, yet he literally could not tie his own shoes. He had to have his wife do it every morning for him, and she constantly had to write little notes for him to remember simple things, like when to eat lunch. This kind of seeming bumbling behavior is VERY common among high IQ people. It is also very common for high IQ people to have difficulty speaking in front of crowds.

The fact that you refuse to acknowledge reality, tells everyone more of your political anger and discontent for him, than simply accepting reality. People who hate Trump, simply want to hate him for various social/political reasons, yet have no stake in the game when it comes to the reality of his intelligence or capability. So, they just keep using sad insults with nothing to back it up, in order to feel better about themselves and their political ideas.

On another note: Clinton had a very high IQ. Also close to 150 if I recall. He was the real wonder of the Democrat party.

Obama actually has one of the lower measured IQ's of all the Presidents. I believe he's around the middle, being about 115-120 at best. Proof of this, is his terrible performance in school. To this day he REFUSES to release his performance marks at University. The only reason he made it through was his attachment to certain leftist professors who really liked him. Obama had GOBS of personal swagger, and most people really like his personality. He is a good orator when given a speech to read, but very incapable of speaking off the cuff with his own thoughts, as most of his Presidency proved. You can be great at reading a prepared speech, or use prepared remarks during a debate, but he was terrible at any other basic academic skills, like running an economy, global strategic war fighting ability, or even real future Geo-political needs. The future will undoubtedly prove Obama's only real stake in the game of Presidents was the fact he was the first African-American, and was at least smart enough to tell the SEALS to go in and kill Bin Laden, which any idiot would be capable of...that's about it.

So far, Trumps performance has been above average. He definitely knows how to deal with our economy. Some of the basic regulations and tax laws he has managed to get passed is proving to be a real God send for our manufacturing. The fact that steel companies are now building 7 new steel mills through the Midwest and south is proof. Gary Indiana is getting 3 new steel mills built, and thousands of jobs for their citizens. Thank Heavens for that. Those poor people have suffered under a socialist umbrella of handouts long enough. They need jobs to help rebuild their communities and families. The fact that some of our best but forgotten citizens are finally getting back to work is more than enough proof of better than average performance as a leader.
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Trump has gone out of his way to target Canada, it's number 2 trading partner behind China.
He has imposed steel and aluminum tariffs. Also "The Trump administration’s tariffs on Canadian softwood lumber are pushing up the cost of wood, claims the U.S.-based National Association of Home Builders (NAHB), adding approximately USD $9,000 to the cost of single-family homes in the United States"

What is it exactly you like so much about him?
That may hurt the people in the USA, but is actually a benefit to 99.999% of the population in Canada. Selling a little less to the USA means that they want us in Canada to buy, so now we have more supply for ourselves. And in your example of the home building price down there going up, again this is good news for us, it is only bad for Americans. Our big lumber buyers are NOT the USA. Our local building supply stores will be able to get in product easier hopefully, and maybe a percent or two less as our own supply goes up. Its a win for us, and by the way the loud yelling and screaming anti Trump, left wing, communist thinking people up here, are the minority. They just yell and scream like lunatics so yes you hear more from them. The others do not need to protest or freak out like a 2 year old having a temper tantrum.
Also as a business man myself I understand Trump, because he thinks like a business person. If i was sitting around doing nothing on welfare I would probably be anti Trump because of my mindset to let the government take care of me.
 

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Australian politicians are pretty dumbass, but Trump has a room temperature IQ. Sadly, the US is an international laughing stock.

This is my favorite quote of his:


 

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Australian politicians are pretty dumbass, but Trump has a room temperature IQ. Sadly, the US is an international laughing stock.

This is my favorite quote of his:


Yep. Typical response from someone with a very high IQ, but no oral linguistic ability when trying to express themselves on the spot. I've seen this kind of thing a million times.
 

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Yep. Typical response from someone with a very high IQ, but no oral linguistic ability when trying to express themselves on the spot. I've seen this kind of thing a million times.
You really spend that much time watching videos of idiots?
 

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That may hurt the people in the USA, but is actually a benefit to 99.999% of the population in Canada. Selling a little less to the USA means that they want us in Canada to buy, so now we have more supply for ourselves. And in your example of the home building price down there going up, again this is good news for us, it is only bad for Americans. Our big lumber buyers are NOT the USA. Our local building supply stores will be able to get in product easier hopefully, and maybe a percent or two less as our own supply goes up. Its a win for us,
What percentage of soft lumber goes where?

Far as this being a "win" for you, let us know how that works out for you....

and by the way the loud yelling and screaming anti Trump, left wing, communist thinking people up here, are the minority. They just yell and scream like lunatics so yes you hear more from them. The others do not need to protest or freak out like a 2 year old having a temper tantrum.
What? That is exactly what a freaking out 2-year-old having a temper tantrum would type.

Also as a business man myself I understand Trump, because he thinks like a business person. If i was sitting around doing nothing on welfare I would probably be anti Trump because of my mindset to let the government take care of me.
So much wrong there.... majority are trying to work themselves off welfare/assistance programs. No one wants to be poor... you are taken advantage of, it is embarrassing, and it is no fun. Being poor sucks.

I'm not going to look up numbers, but you should... you don't understand who is on assistance programs in America. It is not who you think it is... look at raw numbers.

You don't know what you are talking about... your entire post sounds crazy. I hope you are good in business because wow... just wow. You are from Canada.... I get it... it would be like me trying to have an intelligent conversation about your country but only listening to certain people or limited experiences. It would not work very well.

Having 100 youtube subscribers is not a business, btw.
 
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LOL. No, but I spent an awful lot of time among people with IQ's far above 140. Believe me, that kind of thing is an hourly occurrence.
Well I've heard it all now. The "he's so smart he sounds stupid" defense.

Nice one Centurian, like it, like it.
 

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Well I've heard it all now. The "he's so smart he sounds stupid" defense.

Nice one Centurian, like it, like it.
I know it actually sounds quite unbelievable on the surface. Until you actually spend time with very intelligent people. Then, you get it.

Seriously. Spend an afternoon at Google HQ, where all the top programmers write code. Most of them couldn't properly brush their own teeth. It's ridiculous..
 

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Ahahahha....keep trying boys. It's clear the guy is clueless.

Latest example:

Fact: Today he tweeted about how the "paid" Kavanaugh protestors were now complaining because they hadn't received their checks.

Fact: Thirty minutes earlier, writer Asra Nomani was on Fox & Friends where she sarcastically said “People have sent me lots of messages that they’re waiting for their check.”
 

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Ahahahha....keep trying boys. It's clear the guy is clueless.

Latest example:

Fact: Today he tweeted about how the "paid" Kavanaugh protestors were now complaining because they hadn't received their checks.

Fact: Thirty minutes earlier, writer Asra Nomani was on Fox & Friends where she sarcastically said “People have sent me lots of messages that they’re waiting for their check.”
And?
 

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First off, the logging regulations in BC are incredibly lax compared to the US. They literally go up there and strip mine all they want without requirement of proper land management and replanting, because Canada has such ridiculously huge resources of soft wood. They strip all they want, and the land mass is big enough, most will grow back naturally with little regard to proper land management. As a result, they put US producers literally out of business, because the US lumber companies have very strict land management and replanting regulations in place. Add on the fact that Canada's dollar is usually $0.70-$0.80 on the USD, it puts all of our lumber industry at a huge disadvantage.
Here's another wake up call for all my friends and family to the north.
I hate to say this, but none of this will matter since the US is finally getting fed up with Canada literally living under our security umbrella for over 70 years with very little contribution, and a trade pact that has done nothing but benefit them. As the United States global strategic and economic needs are far more important than happy trade with Canada, the eventual annexation of everything west of Manitoba to the north passage is no longer a question of if, but when. They'd better get used to the idea of statehood. Within only a few years, and eventual economic collapse of Ontario and Quebec not being able to suck off the teat of Alberta's transfer payments, they will eventually come crawling into the Union as protectorates with full access to our economy as well. We were hoping we could do this less painfully, but the Canadians have been waving their flag for 70 years with the delusion of sovereignty. The maple leaf is a beautiful flag, but it's been nothing more than a complete facade to entice morale. It works well, but a nation that cannot defend itself, is not a sovereign nation.
You seriously believe in Manifest Destiny? A yes or no will be fine.

Canada has independently defended itself... against the US. We're not a military superpower and don't intend on becoming one. The relationship between the two countries has been mutually beneficial but Trump has framed it as though Canada has a large upper hand. I don't see it.

By not caring how you present yourself on the world stage will mean you have less influence on it.
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