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3800 for a blown 2+2 would be ideal. We'll see what they're able to get to. I'm guessing in the 3900-3950 range.
It won’t be less than 4100lb for the “non-R”.
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It won’t be less than 4100lb for the “non-R”.
Then Ford will have massively failed. You can supercharge a 350 and get way under 4k especially if you lighten up a few areas Ford themselves could have done better.

Both dealers I'm in line with tend to agree as well, if it's over 4k the very small ADM agreement goes out and it's a sticker order.
 

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Then Ford will have massively failed. You can supercharge a 350 and get way under 4k especially if you lighten up a few areas Ford themselves could have done better.

Both dealers I'm in line with tend to agree as well, if it's over 4k the very small ADM agreement goes out and it's a sticker order.
Wow, that's good news then!
GT500 at sticker price!:rockon:

I wish he is wrong and the GT500 ends up weighting less than that, but if not I don't see it like a Fail (as long the price stays closer to the GT350) but just as a little disappointment.



EDIT: Oh, no... nevermind.... I just realized that I missunderstood your post.
 

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Then Ford will have massively failed
Well they did release the PP2 without trans or diff coolers, as well as launch the 2018 5.0L engines for the F150 and Mustang with known significant issues. Don't put it past them to fail under this far from visionary leadership team.
 

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Well they did release the PP2 without trans or diff coolers, as well as launch the 2018 5.0L engines for the F150 and Mustang with known significant issues. Don't put it past them to fail under this far from visionary leadership team.
What "known significant issues" are you talking about? I haven't seen anything on the 5.0s other than a few isolated cases
 

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What "known significant issues" are you talking about? I haven't seen anything on the 5.0s other than a few isolated cases
Quite a large number (R/1000) of dropped valves.
 

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Hmm, I haven't even heard a peep about that. Is it moreso with the F150s than the Mustangs?
 

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Hmm, I haven't even heard a peep about that. Is it moreso with the F150s than the Mustangs?
Only because of the volume differences (V8 F150s sell ~40-50% more than all US Mustangs). The failure mode is the same.
 

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If they keep the price real close to 350 and the weight goes up by 150 to 200lbs it won't be a fail as it will be under 4k. Anything pushing it over 4k is a complete fail as the would have done nothing to reduce weight. A decent set of wheels alone could offset somewhere between 25 to 45% of the added weight up front.
 

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What's on the list as far as weight savings go here:

-Carbon Fibre dash - as seen on a mule
-Carbon Fibre upper rad support thing, like the GT350 has
-Possible the CF K-member?
-Light weight wheels (non CF and CF for the R)
-Rear seat delete for the R

Things that might be cool, but bump the price:
-CF racing buckets on an R?
-Rear seat delete
-CF hood or fenders? I hear the aluminum stuff is already light.

Really dying here. Hurry up already.
 

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Well they did release the PP2 without trans or diff coolers, as well as launch the 2018 5.0L engines for the F150 and Mustang with known significant issues. Don't put it past them to fail under this far from visionary leadership team.
Wow. If you’re now sour on the brand that doesn’t bode well. I relied on your posts for a reality check. Sobering news here.
 

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Wow. If you’re now sour on the brand that doesn’t bode well. I relied on your posts for a reality check. Sobering news here.
It certainly isn't the Ford that Mulally led.
 

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It certainly isn't the Ford that Mulally led.
This is also my very strong impression.

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe you previously worked for Ford and still have contacts within the company.
Can you provide any insight into the current state of mind/attitude/enthusiasm of the product development/engineering/performance teams regarding the Mustang and future vehicles.
To use a Peter DeLorenzo term...how do the “True Believers” feel?

If this request is inappropriate or uncomfortable, I completely understand and apologize.
 

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This is also my very strong impression.

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe you previously worked for Ford and still have contacts within the company.
Can you provide any insight into the current state of mind/attitude/enthusiasm of the product development/engineering/performance teams regarding the Mustang and future vehicles.
To use a Peter DeLorenzo term...how do the “True Believers” feel?

If this request is inappropriate or uncomfortable, I completely understand and apologize.
Some are bullish, more are in a constant state of SMH.
 

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Understood and thank you.
Gives me a knot in my gut.
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