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Sorry if this has been asked already but does anyone have any info on which auto shows the 18 will be making an appearance at? More specifically I am wondering if it will be at the Washington DC auto show this week. They do not list it as being on display but the list hasn't been updated since before the 18 was released...
I would assume it will be there Zack..it was at a bunch of smaller shows this week so I gotta assume one will be here at DC for us.
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On paper the 2018 is a better car, let's see how that holds up in the real world.
 

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Those tail lights would be an easy retrofit to the 2015 I think
 

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Pricey tire, which means its a legit tire at least. Definitely do not see an issue with a GTPP keeping up or besting a SS now.
 

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That EB rear diffuser looks much different... is there no spikes? Looks like there's a horizontal slot. Any pics from lower angle?
 

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Pricey tire, which means its a legit tire at least. Definitely do not see an issue with a GTPP keeping up or besting a SS now.
I wish but I do still see an issue. Until power is confirmed, it's still down on power, weighs more, and I believe the ss runs a 285 square vs the GTPP's 255/275 stagger setup. Besides, the GTPP's competitor is the 1LE which is even faster than the SS.

I mentioned it before and will mention it again. GT's are 435 dynoing at 380. SS is underrated at 455 and dynoing at 430. On paper, it's 20hp more and weighs less. In real life, it's 50hp more at the wheels and still lighter with wider tires. The 2018 better have a long flat curve at 475 hp and wider tires similar to the SS 285 square setup if it wants to hang with it.
 

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That EB rear diffuser looks much different... is there no spikes? Looks like there's a horizontal slot. Any pics from lower angle?
Good spot, Sir. I do believe this is the first rear shot of an Ecoboost that we've seen.......well, it's certainly the first I've seen.

I guess it obviously needed a unique version as it only has single pipes each side :)
 

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I wish but I do still see an issue. Until power is confirmed, it's still down on power, weighs more, and I believe the ss runs a 285 square vs the GTPP's 255/275 stagger setup. Besides, the GTPP's competitor is the 1LE which is even faster than the SS.

I mentioned it before and will mention it again. GT's are 435 dynoing at 380. SS is underrated at 455 and dynoing at 430. On paper, it's 20hp more and weighs less. In real life, it's 50hp more at the wheels and still lighter with wider tires. The 2018 better have a long flat curve at 475 hp and wider tires similar to the SS 285 square setup if it wants to hang with it.
Most SS's are putting out around 400-405 to the tires Anything higher than that is a happy dyno. The SS runs a 245 in the front and a 275 in the rear. A power increase is coming.

As for the 1LE, the pricing is insane on it and while price wise it might compete with the GTPP, its equipment is on par with a GT350R. The 1LE is in an odd spot.
 

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I wish but I do still see an issue. Until power is confirmed, it's still down on power, weighs more, and I believe the ss runs a 285 square vs the GTPP's 255/275 stagger setup. Besides, the GTPP's competitor is the 1LE which is even faster than the SS.

I mentioned it before and will mention it again. GT's are 435 dynoing at 380. SS is underrated at 455 and dynoing at 430. On paper, it's 20hp more and weighs less. In real life, it's 50hp more at the wheels and still lighter with wider tires. The 2018 better have a long flat curve at 475 hp and wider tires similar to the SS 285 square setup if it wants to hang with it.
Holy bullshit Batman. Most SS camaros are laying down 400-405hp, not 430. Tune only GTs are laying down the same 405hp, but are nearly 100 lbs heavier. A 455 hp mustang will have nearly an identical hp to weight ratio as the Camaro, meaning acceleration should be quite comparable.

It's funny, you say until power is confirmed, it's still down on power and weighs more. Neither the power nor the weight has been confirmed. If dodge can remove 200 lbs out of the new hellcat/demon, why is it that you are assuming the mustang is going to weigh the same?
 

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Most SS's are putting out around 400-405 to the tires Anything higher than that is a happy dyno. The SS runs a 245 in the front and a 275 in the rear. A power increase is coming.

As for the 1LE, the pricing is insane on it and while price wise it might compete with the GTPP, its equipment is on par with a GT350R. The 1LE is in an odd spot.
Isn't the GTPP going to be available with the similar options as the 1LE?
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