Official: 2018 Ford Mustang Refresh Detailed! (Options/Features, Specs, Photos, Info)

NoVaGT said:

It's not just rotation.

A car engineered to handle and brake very well, with the majority of it's weight on the front wheels..........and the front wheels are narrower?

C'mon Ford, stop with the aesthetic choices to engineering issues. And search "under-steer" on Youtube.

Morons.

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That's not fair to single out Ford for this when every other manufacturer staggers the tires for their performance models also.

NoVaGT said:

It's not just rotation.

A car engineered to handle and brake very well, with the majority of it's weight on the front wheels..........and the front wheels are narrower?

C'mon Ford, stop with the aesthetic choices to engineering issues. And search "under-steer" on Youtube.

Morons.

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When you accelerate, weight distribution is pushed to the rear. The stagger setup makes perfect sense with RWD. The wheels that place the power to the ground will end up getting most of the weight, thus it is better to have wider tires on the rear.

bootlegger said:

When you accelerate, weight distribution is pushed to the rear. The stagger setup makes perfect sense with RWD. The wheels that place the power to the ground will end up getting most of the weight, thus it is better to have wider tires on the rear.

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When it comes to handling, acceleration doesn't matter much. Having wide tires only in the back would make sense if you are building a car for drag racing, but if you want a car to also be able to turn and break properly, then you'd also need a very wide tires up front. When a front-engine car brakes, all its weight is shifted upfront along with the weight it already carries up front, making for a very under steer-y car with an unimpressive braking performance.

NoVaGT said:

C'mon Ford, stop with the aesthetic choices to engineering issues.

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It's not an engineering issue if most of the people who purchase a Mustang are more interested in straight line drag racing over technical courses, its simply a business decision. And its not just Ford that does it...

It sucks being the tail, but the dog wags the tail not vice versa.

Topnotch said:

PP2 wheels 19x9.5 and 19x10 Dark Tarnish on PILOT SPORT CUP 2's
not available with black package in production trim

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YES PLEASE. I want more sir.

That contrast looks good. Notice a GT350 track pack like spoiler. We need more info. Who can read those tire sizes? And those wheels look great like I expected.
Now the big question. Will they price it similar to the 1LE?

Pablo GT350 said:

YES PLEASE. I want more sir.

That contrast looks good. Notice a GT350 track pack like spoiler. We need more info. Who can read those tire sizes? And those wheels look great like I expected.
Now the big question. Will they price it similar to the 1LE?

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Yeah that ^^^ Also, it would really suck if PP2 is an option only on the premium GT. I would like to see PP2 be available as an option on the base GT.

PP2 comes in base and premium. The base gets cloth recaro option

Recaro's not standard? Big mistake Ford.

Spirit Of Fire said:

When it comes to handling, acceleration doesn't matter much. Having wide tires only in the back would make sense if you are building a car for drag racing, but if you want a car to also be able to turn and break properly, then you'd also need a very wide tires up front. When a front-engine car brakes, all its weight is shifted upfront along with the weight it already carries up front, making for a very under steer-y car with an unimpressive braking performance.

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I would say both the front and rear tires are quite wide. Night and day from my S197. The PP S550 has excellent handling compared to the old pony cars. If you planned to seriously track the car, you would ditch the stock wheels and tires anyway.

Is Ford ever going to address the rear window misalignment? :tsk: :shrug:

GT Pony said:

Is Ford ever going to address the rear window misalignment? :tsk: :shrug:

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It's very odd that they have not. It is consistently as this picture, left side lower than the right. I don't think I have ever seen it the other way around. This makes me tend to believe there is an assembly error occurring on the line. Maybe the original engineering instructions to manufacturing called for the front of the rear window to be seated first, then lowering the back and someone decided that installing left to right was easier than front to back. It's like the bumper to fender gap, that seems to always be on the left rear, rarely on the right rear. Something is being done wrong. FIX IT.

GT Pony said:

Is Ford ever going to address the rear window misalignment? :tsk: :shrug:

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Ford needs to fix it! That is just unacceptable!!

Topnotch said:

PP2 comes in base and premium. The base gets cloth recaro option

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With prices creeping up I think it's big PP2 can come in base trim :clap2:

Topnotch said:

PP2 comes in base and premium. The base gets cloth recaro option

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This is fantastic news. :cheers:

GT Pony said:

Is Ford ever going to address the rear window misalignment? :tsk: :shrug:

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Yeah, that's why I took that picture. It's laughable that this still is a problem. Actually I don't believe they will fix that for the production model :tsk: