krt22
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With no real track times and speculation running wild, this article puts things into perspective nicely. Pretty compelling data for the voodoo we are getting in the GT350
http://www.boostaddict.com/content.php?6586-Comparing-the-2016-Ford-Shelby-GT350-Voodoo-V8-to-the-best-naturally-aspirated-performance-engines-of-the-past-decade-with-specs-and-dynographs
**Full credit to M6G member Sticky for this great comparison**
http://www.boostaddict.com/content.php?6586-Comparing-the-2016-Ford-Shelby-GT350-Voodoo-V8-to-the-best-naturally-aspirated-performance-engines-of-the-past-decade-with-specs-and-dynographs
**Full credit to M6G member Sticky for this great comparison**
Comparing the 2016 Ford Shelby GT350 Voodoo V8 to the best naturally aspirated performance engines of the past decade with specs and dynographs
Ford is doing something very special with the new Shelby GT350/GT350R Mustang. What is so special about it? That in this day and age where emission regulations are tightening (and even toppling automotive giants) Ford is able to deliver what many companies including BMW say can no longer feasibly be done.
Well, Ford proves you can deliver a high performance and high revving naturally aspirated motor that is emissions compliant and do so in an economically viable manner. The manufacturers that said this could not be done simply wanted to pad the bottom line further.
The Shelby GT350 Mustang starts at just under $50k making what Ford achieved here even more impressive. Keep in mind that every single engine on the list below was put in a car with a higher starting MSRP and in some cases by well over $100k above the GT350 starting price.
As reported yesterday, the GT350 5.2 liter Voodoo V8 makes 467 horsepower to the wheels and 374 lb-ft of torque at the wheels. The BoostAddict network a few months ago compiled a list of the highest revving motors regardless of aspiration in 2015. Now let's compare the best modern naturally aspirated performance engines produced in the past decade in the context of the new Ford GT350 V8 with their specifications plus Dynojet output.
Shelby GT350 Voodoo V8
Displacement: 5.2 liter
Horsepower: 526
Torque: 429 lb-ft
Wheel Horsepower: 467
Wheel Torque: 374 lb-ft
Bore x Stroke (mm): 94.0 x 93.0
Fuel Injection: Port
Redline RPM: 8250
Compression Ratio: 12.0:1
Crank: Flat-plane
BMW E60 M5 S85 V10
Displacement: 5.0 liter
Horsepower: 507
Torque: 384 lb-ft
Wheel Horsepower: 426
Wheel Torque: 320 lb-ft
Bore x Stroke (mm): 92.0 x 75.2
Fuel Injection: Port
Redline RPM: 8250
Compression Ratio: 12.0:1
Crank: Cross-plane
BMW E92 M3 S65 V8
Displacement: 4.0 liter
Horsepower: 414
Torque: 300 lb-ft
Wheel Horsepower: 350
Wheel Torque: 254 lb-ft
Bore x Stroke (mm): 92.0 x 75.2
Fuel Injection: Port
Redline RPM: 8400
Compression Ratio: 12.0:1
Crank: Cross-plane
Porsche 997.2 GT3 RS and GT3 RS 4.0 Flat-6
Displacement: 3.8/4.0 liter
Horsepower: 450/500
Torque: 317/339 lb-ft
Wheel Horsepower: 419/457
Wheel Torque: 300/325 lb-ft
Bore x Stroke (mm): 102.7 x 76.4 / 102.7 x 80.4
Fuel Injection: Port
Redline RPM: 8500
Compression Ratio: 12.2:1 / 12.6:1
Crank: Cross-plane
Porsche 991 GT3 Flat-6
Displacement: 3.8 liter
Horsepower: 475
Torque: 325 lb-ft
Wheel Horsepower: 453
Wheel Torque: 325 lb-ft
Bore x Stroke (mm): 102.7 x 80.4
Fuel Injection: Direct
Redline RPM: 9000
Compression Ratio: 12.9:1
Crank: Cross-plane
Ferrari F430 V8
Displacement: 4.3 liter
Horsepower: 483
Torque: 343 lb-ft
Wheel Horsepower: 396
Wheel Torque: 290 lb-ft
Bore x Stroke (mm): 92.0 x 81.0
Fuel Injection: Port
Redline RPM: 8500
Compression Ratio: 11.3:1
Crank: Flat-plane
Ferrari F430 Scuderia V8
Displacement: 4.3 liter
Horsepower: 503
Torque: 347 lb-ft
Wheel Horsepower: 427
Wheel Torque: 296 lb-ft
Bore x Stroke (mm): 92.0 x 81.0
Fuel Injection: Port
Redline RPM: 8500
Compression Ratio: 11.9:1
Crank: Flat-plane
Ferrari 458 Italia V8
Displacement: 4.5 liter
Horsepower: 570
Torque: 398 lb-ft
Wheel Horsepower: 448
Wheel Torque: 317 lb-ft
Bore x Stroke (mm): 94.0 x 81.0
Fuel Injection: Direct
Redline RPM: 9000
Compression Ratio: 12.5:1
Crank: Flat-plane
Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 LS7 V8
Displacement: 7.0 liter
Horsepower: 505
Torque: 470 lb-ft
Wheel Horsepower: 441
Wheel Torque: 418 lb-ft
Bore x Stroke (mm): 104.8 x 101.6
Fuel Injection: Port
Redline RPM: 7000
Compression Ratio: 11.0:1
Crank: Cross-plane
Audi R8 V8
Displacement: 4.2 liter
Horsepower: 430
Torque: 317 lb-ft
Wheel Horsepower: 352
Wheel Torque: 301 lb-ft
Bore x Stroke (mm): 84.5 x 92.8
Fuel Injection: Direct
Redline RPM: 8250
Compression Ratio: 12.5:1
Crank: Cross-plane
Lamborghini LP560-4 V10
Displacement: 5.2 liter
Horsepower: 552
Torque: 398 lb-ft
Wheel Horsepower: 469
Wheel Torque: 348 lb-ft
Bore x Stroke (mm): 84.5 x 92.8
Fuel Injection: Direct
Redline RPM: 8500
Compression Ratio: 12.5:1
Crank: Cross-plane
Mercedes-AMG W204 C63 AMG Black Series M156
Displacement: 6.2 liter
Horsepower: 510
Torque: 457 lb-ft
Wheel Horsepower: 436
Wheel Torque: 397 lb-ft
Bore x Stroke (mm): 102.2 x 94.6
Fuel Injection: Port
Redline RPM: 7200
Compression Ratio: 11.3:1
Crank: Cross-plane
Mercedes-AMG SLS Black Series M159
Displacement: 6.2 liter
Horsepower: 622
Torque: 468 lb-ft
Wheel Horsepower: 510
Wheel Torque: 398 lb-ft
Bore x Stroke (mm): 102.2 x 94.6
Fuel Injection: Port
Redline RPM: 8000
Compression Ratio: 11.3:1
Crank: Cross-plane
In order of wheel horsepower:
1. Mercedes-AMG SLS Black Series M159 - 510
2. Lamborghini LP560-4 V10 - 469
3. Shelby GT350 Voodoo V8 - 467
4. Porsche 997.2 GT3 RS 4.0 Flat-6 - 457
5. Porsche 991 GT3 Flat-6 - 453
6. Ferrari 458 Italia V8 - 448
7. Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 LS7 V8 - 441
8. Mercedes-AMG W204 C63 AMG Black Series M156 - 436
9. Ferrari F430 Scuderia V8 - 427
10. BMW E60 M5 S85 V10 - 426
11. Porsche 997.2 GT3 RS 3.8 - 419
12. Ferrari F430 V8 - 396
13. Audi R8 V8 - 352
14. BMW E92 M3 S65 V8 - 350
In order of wheel horsepower per liter:
1. Porsche 991 GT3 Flat-6 - 119.2
2. Porsche 997.2 GT3 RS 4.0 Flat-6 - 114.2
3. Porsche 997.2 GT3 RS 3.8 - 110.2
4. Ferrari 458 Italia V8 - 99.5
5. Ferrari F430 Scuderia V8 - 99.3
6. Ferrari F430 V8 - 92.0
7. Lamborghini LP560-4 V10 - 90.1
8. Shelby GT350 Voodoo V8 - 89.8
9. BMW E92 M3 S65 V8 - 87.5
10. BMW E60 M5 S85 V10 - 85.2
11. Audi R8 V8 - 83.8
12. Mercedes-AMG SLS Black Series M159 - 82.2
13. Mercedes-AMG W204 C63 AMG Black Series M156 - 70.3
14. Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 LS7 V8 - 63.0
In order of wheel torque per liter:
1. Ferrari 458 Italia V8 - 88.4
2. Porsche 991 GT3 Flat-6 - 85.5
3. Porsche 997.2 GT3 RS 4.0 Flat-6 - 81.2
4. Porsche 997.2 GT3 RS 3.8 Flat-6 - 78.9
5. Shelby GT350 Voodoo V8 - 71.9
6. Audi R8 V8 - 71.6
7. Ferrari F430 Scuderia V8 - 68.8
8. Ferrari F430 V8 - 67.4
9. Lamborghini LP560-4 V10 - 66.9
10. Mercedes-AMG SLS Black Series M159 - 64.2
11. BMW E60 M5 S85 V10 - 64.0
12. Mercedes-AMG W204 C63 AMG Black Series M156 - 64.0
13. BMW E92 M3 S65 V8 - 63.5
14. Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 LS7 V8 - 59.7
Now some of you may be saying, hold on, where are the big naturally aspirated V12's from Ferrari and Lamborghini? They make more power! You are right, they do. They also come packaged in $300k plus cars. That highlights a key point here. Ford is offering by far the most naturally aspirated horsepower per dollar. It isn't even close.
Also, we wanted to compare the motor to actually attainable cars and vehicles closer in displacement and cylinder count. Obviously it is not uniform and obviously cars like the SLS Black Series are many times the cost of a GT350 but that just serves to make the GT350 look even better.
The Voodoo V8 is the third most powerful motor on the list. It makes more power and torque at the same compression ratio with the same revs as the vaunted BMW S85 V10. It also does it for less money at a time when emission rules are tighter.
BMW has switched to turbo motors because they said they can no longer make high performance naturally aspirated high revving engines that meet emissions standards and still make money. Yet Ford is producing a naturally aspirated motor today that makes more power and torque than BMW's best for less money than BMW. Hey, you figure out if it is because BMW can't do it or the accountants who run the show prefer that they didn't.
What we also learn here is that Porsche by far pushes their engines harder than anyone else. They are the top dogs when it comes to extracting horsepower per liter followed by Ferrari. That said, the 991 GT3 is the champion of hp per liter and Ferrari is almost a full 20 horsepower per liter off from them. That is a large gap and Porsche deserves tremendous respect for what they do. Yes, the list is missing the 458 Speciale which certainly would be great to see and if anyone has a Dynojet run for one that Ferrari didn't pull from the web let us know.
Ford is offering the best balance of revs, horsepower, and torque for the money in this comparison. The Voodoo V8 is truly elite only giving up two wheel horsepower to the Lamborghini V10 which comes in a car over $200k while also offering more torque. Only the SLS Black Series M159 tops it significantly but it is working with another liter of displacement and costs $300k+.
The Voodoo V8 truly is world class. Ford can not get enough credit for what they have built.
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