ThisAgain, all Ford had to do was slap the front end from the GT350 on the MY18 and update the headlights (same shape, but add LEDs) and we would all be going ape shit for the MY18.
ThisIMHO, you shouldn't have to "Warm up" to a design. The second I laid eyes on the MY15, I effing loved it.
It's pretty normal that they start sketching a refresh or new model as soon as another one launches. With development times of multiple years they just have to start soon enoughJust in case ya missed this...
The car in the leaked video was actually Orange Fury believe it or not. The image quality of the video however was so poor that it looked yellow indeed.First leaked images and the video of the yellow GT PP with ne real contrasts and stupid angles really made the car look ugly.
Haha, Touche....I was speaking figuratively, not literally.Sorry, when I read "The front end is what is turning everyone off," I thought the implication was that it was turning everyone off. I've seen other comments about how sales are going to tank, etc., so in context, I think it's easy to see how a comment like that might be interpreted to mean everyone dislikes it.
Some people are choosing to buy the 17 and giving up those things to do it, but I'll bet the same thing happened when the S550 first came out, and some people liked the S197 better. Tastes are varied, and as has been pointed out, many of the comments made about the '18 were made about the '15. I guess Ford could have done a better job there too, right? Seriously, no design is going to please everyone, so the fact that some don't like it doesn't mean Ford could had done a better job - at most, it means that Ford could have done a better job to please those specific people.
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Please be aware though, that once the '18MYs start to get into the hands of customers, the Moderation team will start to implement one of our forum rules on threads/posts specific to the '18:
"3. Inter Model Bashing ā To reiterate, the forum will not tolerate any bashing of another member's choice of vehicle, options/equipment, modifications, stock vs. non stock etc. Respect for all models (EcoBoost, V6, GT, GT350, etc) is expected of all members. Posting in a thread or section related to a specific trim/model for the sole purpose of bashing the vehicle will not be tolerated on the forums"
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Unfortunately, people cant stand being left behind. While I have my personal tastes, I would never bash another for theirs. I can however debate the what ifs, or whys or hows. :cheers::doh:
Wow. I can't believe there is a need for this rule.
Perhaps we all need to rethink our lives.
This isn't a new rule....it's been there, along with all the others, for a long time. There's a "rules" sticky in every section.:doh:
Wow. I can't believe there is a need for this rule.
Perhaps we all need to rethink our lives.
Totally agree with all of the above.I agree, designs do affect people differently. One of the reasons the S550 sold so well was because of the styling. Letās face it, performance wise, itās not far off from the previous generation.
Again, donāt get me wrongā¦the MY18 isnāt hideous. It just seems like they did a more dramatic facelift than most that purchased the S550 preferred. Letās face it though, Ford isnāt trying to sell the people that already purchased the 15-17s. They are looking to cash in on those that were on the fence. Those of us that purchased the 15-17 will be more interested in the S650 than the MY18.
At some point, it will set off acquisition signals. Ford stock has been in a steady decline since 2Q 2014.Ford shares are so cheap the whole company could be taken over by one of the new tech billionaires. If they are one of the virtue signaling green types the '18 might be the last Mustang ever!
Have the issues been widespread in the F150 using the 10 speed? We'll also get to see how the ZL1 does given it's using the same transmission as the 18 GT and 17+ F150.That's true.
But if the new, bet the farm, 10 speed develops a massive fault and needs a total recall of all models the share price could halve...
A brilliant review of the 10 speed in the F-150 by the sae...
Less than 200 feet after leaving my home driveway, the F-150ās transmission is already in 3rd gear. A half-block later it has upshifted into 5th. Merging into the main drag on light throttle, the transmission upshifts two gears at a time. The gear changes up and down are so seamless and hushed, I have to watch the indicator lights on the cluster to know what gear is engaged.
It took perhaps five minutes of driving this 2017 Ford pickup, a King Ranch-spec crew cab with the new 3.5-L twin-turbocharged V6 and equally new 10-speed automatic, to realize this is the future for full-size truck transmissions. More ratios are better, as long as theyāre calibrated as exquisitely as in this early production test truck. And 10 of them feel ideal in a 5000-lb (2268-kg) vehicle propelled by 375 SAE-rated horsepower (280 kW) and 470 lbĀ·ft (637 NĀ·m).
Co-developed by Ford and GM (download the July 2016 AE feature, http://magazine.sae.org/auto/), the 10R80 carries four planetary gearsets and six clutches in an overall package thatās virtually the same size and mass as the 6-speed unit it replaces. Ten gear ratios appear to be an increasingly popular solution at other OEMS, too, as Toyota debuts its new Aisin-sourced AWR10L65 in the 2018 Lexus LC coupe and LS sedan and Honda springs its new 10-speed transaxle, developed in-house, for front drive applications (see http://articles.sae.org/15215/).
With a 7.4 ratio spread and triple-overdrive ratios in gears 8, 9 and 10, the Ford 10R80 I tested was typically in 7th or 8th gear when driving on 40 mph (64 km/h) suburban Detroit roads on light throttle. First gear is numerically lower than its 6-speed equivalent, and 10th is slightly higher than the 6-speedās 6th, with a super-close-ratio feel from the ratios in between. Itās a set-up that provides more standing-start-accel punch and slightly lower rpm in open-road cruising.
Tipping into the F-150ās gas pedal for highway roll-on accelerationā65 mph (104 km/h) at 1,500 rpmāthe gearbox zips imperceptibly from 10th gear to 7th. Later while northbound on Interstate 75, the truckās running at steady-state 80 mph (128 km/h) on light throttle in the indicated 10th gear, but a long hill looms ahead. Under load on three-quarter throttle, the 10R80 drops four ratios rapidly, then briefly drops two moreāto 4th gear at 4000 rpmābefore upshifting four gears as the road flattens again. Slick and impressive!
The truckās stop-start function was smooth and unobtrusive in most circumstances. But few drivers will enjoy the loss of power steering boost when the engine shuts downāthe wheel gets heavy immediately. Although the V6 starts instantaneously, the feeling of being stopped with a dead engine in the middle of a four-way intersection is unnerving.
A few WOT drag-style starts on my favorite back road showcased the 10R80ās ease in rocketing sequentially up through the ābox with almost CVT-like smoothness. In such situations the transmission doesnāt skip-shift. In the 3.5-L F-150, fuel shuts off at 5750 rpm but the cals are designed to keep the V6 in its power sweet-spot under such conditions. The calibration team responsible for the F-150/10R package deserve a bonus for their thorough workāhow about it, Raj (Nair, Fordās global product-development boss)? Just my opinion.
Addition of the 10-speed gave F-150 a 1-mpg bump in EPA fuel efficiency for the gas V6. Will pairing it with the 3.0-L diesel V6 next year push a 2WD F-150 over the elusive 30-mpg highway threshold?
After hearing Ford's "City of Tomorrow" talk at this year's Detroit Auto Show and their obsession with developing new patents and becoming a mobility company, my bet if anyone buys them it'll be Apple.At some point, it will set off acquisition signals. Ford stock has been in a steady decline since 2Q 2014.