Twin Turbo V6 Project

kodypiccirilli said:

MAPerformance race intercooler. Thinking this one due to the high cooling rate and high horsepower rating (not that im going for max horsepower). With these ratings, Im hoping for not only good performance gains, but good reliability. Here is the link to the intercooler.

https://www.maperformance.com/produ...cooler-2015-ford-ecoboost-mustang-map-ebm-rik

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I'll definitely help you with that I love this application!

-Adam

MAPerformance said:

I'll definitely help you with that I love this application!

-Adam

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Any word on when the winner of the intercooler give away will be announced?

Subbed...btw, I am surprised you will be able to do this application without warping the head bolts...running the expected amount of horsepower (I imagine around 500 after install) that the increased compression isn't going to affect the heads that much...or am I completely wrong in my assumption

jperls said:

Subbed...btw, I am surprised you will be able to do this application without warping the head bolts...running the expected amount of horsepower (I imagine around 500 after install) that the increased compression isn't going to affect the heads that much...or am I completely wrong in my assumption

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The ProCharged V6s are running 450hp at the crank safely at 8psi.

kodypiccirilli said:

Any word on when the winner of the intercooler give away will be announced?

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End of August.

Nick said:

The ProCharged V6s are running 450hp at the crank safely at 8psi.

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I'm thinking you probably wouldn't want to push the stock internals much harder than that.

I plan on running a total of 5-6 pounds of boost with the addition of e85. I hope to make around the 450whp mark. I found on youtube where someone did a "big" turbo twin turbo kit on a 2014 3.7. They used e85 with 10 pounds of boost and made low-mid 500 horsepower.

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kodypiccirilli said:

I plan on running a total of 5-6 pounds of boost with the addition of e85. I hope to make around the 450whp mark. I found on youtube where someone did a "big" turbo twin turbo kit on a 2014 3.7. They used e85 with 10 pounds of boost and made low-mid 500 horsepower.

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Does not surprise me that e85 was used...replaces a lot of rubber parts with steel to handle the ethanol...couple that with the upgraded and much larger fuel rails and return line...easy to see how that much horse power was made. However, it would not surprise me if the head bolts and internals were beefed up as well...stock components would not do that well at those numbers...and if stock components were run...time will tell as if they will hold up or not (most likely not).

I've been told I can safely go to 12psi with E85 by people who have already been doing it on the stock motor. Don't even have to change timing just have to take off the speed limiter. Only time will tell if the stock internals will take it long term though.

Nick said:

I've been told I can safely go to 12psi with E85 by people who have already been doing it on the stock motor. Don't even have to change timing just have to take off the speed limiter. Only time will tell if the stock internals will take it long term though.

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Why would you need to take off the speed limiter for this?

kodypiccirilli said:

Why would you need to take off the speed limiter for this?

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To go faster.

Nick said:

To go faster.

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I imagined that much! But other than that, there is no other reason to?

Nick said:

I've been told I can safely go to 12psi with E85 by people who have already been doing it on the stock motor. Don't even have to change timing just have to take off the speed limiter. Only time will tell if the stock internals will take it long term though.

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12 psi on a 3.7L motor with 10.5 compression on E85 is well north of 500 hp. You might be ~500 at the wheels. It might hold it for a bit but I'd think you're more likely to window the block sooner rather than later. You want to have forged pistols & rods for that kind of tourqe.

Glenn G said:

12 psi on a 3.7L motor with 10.5 compression on E85 is well north of 500 hp. You might be ~500 at the wheels. It might hold it for a bit but I'd think you're more likely to window the block sooner rather than later. You want to have forged pistols & rods for that kind of tourqe.

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This engine seems to be holding up pretty well. Guy says the owner has used a 150 shot for a year or better using it almost every weekend at the track and has over 100k miles on the car!

kodypiccirilli said:

This engine seems to be holding up pretty well. Guy says the owner has used a 150 shot for a year or better using it almost every weekend at the track and has over 100k miles on the car!

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Yeah a 150 shot for limited times is ok especially with the cooling NO2 provides. 225 for short amounts of time will be ok too, but you are talking about basically having an unlimited 225 shot.

Will the cyclone hold 530 hp, yes but you are 1 knock event from engine death and ALL boosted engines will knock eventually. Hell just taking it out on a hot enough day I get a bit of knock in my eco until the PCM pulls a little bit of timing out of it.

Look I am not trying to tear you down, I love where this project is going, but it is FAR cheaper to build a running engine than a blown one. I've had far too many friends read what was the safe limit of a motor on the Interwebs only to be staring at the expanding puddle of oil under what used to be the engine and no money to fix it, I don't want to see that happen to you.