^^^^ This. Too many changes at once and you can't easily tell what part changed which handling dynamic.Drive the car first with the suspension you haven't installed yet and decide if you want more roll control. The points above are valid, but you should find out how happy you are with it first.
Definitely install all these parts first before decision for sway bars or not. Sway bars have their own pros and cons, should be the very last thing you put to tune the handling response.I have a standard GT (non PP), I have GT350r springs, Koni Sport shocks/struts, and BMR CB005 waiting to be installed. Do I need to upgrade my sway bars? Or would the money be better spent elsewhere?
It will handle beautifully with the springs and shocks you've chosen. As [MENTION=26233]Rebellion[/MENTION] said, you maybe want to upgrade the rear bar to the PP version or something slightly stiffer to improve the handling balance. The PP bar is ~7% stiffer than the non-PP, so not a big jump, but not insignificant either.Thank's for the replies. I was worried if I installed the suspension first without bigger sway bars it would handle horribly until I added them. I also figured it would be easier to install them while installing the other suspension parts. However, my main concern with sway bars is that it will make the ride much too firm since this is my daily driver. Thank's for the replies. I'd rather not have to spend the extra $400 or so if I don't need to.
Thank's. That's what I figured. I'd rather save the money and eventually use it towards brakes or something else anyway.It will handle beautifully with the springs and shocks you've chosen. As [MENTION=26233]Rebellion[/MENTION] said, you maybe want to upgrade the rear bar to the PP version or something slightly stiffer to improve the handling balance. The PP bar is ~7% stiffer than the non-PP, so not a big jump, but not insignificant either.
The problem with making it feel like a go-kart is that it'll also have the misgivings in ride comfort of a go-kart. It's subjective, but I think you'll find that you won't want the ride to firm up much/at all once you get everything put on. It'll feel far, far more on-rails than it did before.
It will handle beautifully with the springs and shocks you've chosen. As @Rebellion said, you maybe want to upgrade the rear bar to the PP version or something slightly stiffer to improve the handling balance. The PP bar is ~7% stiffer than the non-PP, so not a big jump, but not insignificant either.
The problem with making it feel like a go-kart is that it'll also have the misgivings in ride comfort of a go-kart. It's subjective, but I think you'll find that you won't want the ride to firm up much/at all once you get everything put on. It'll feel far, far more on-rails than it did before.
They're not really additive in terms of what they provide to the car. The lockout gets rid of a lot of the floppy feeling of the rear & makes the front and rear feel connected together much, much better. The rear bar shifts the handling balance closer to neutral. The rear bar is also very easy to install. Do both!Im looking at upgrading my rear sway bar to the PP version. I to have a non-pp car. I am also going to get the BMR cradle lockout. I would like to install that first, THEN see if i want to change sway bars, whether both or just the rear. Any links to purchasing the PP sway bars (front/rear)
I doubt it will handle "horribly", but you should try to pay attention to whether the car's handling feels "heavy but grippy" or has any tendency for "looseness" (which might only be a momentary twitch) under enthusiastic driving conditions. A little more rear bar stiffness will generally help the first situation, a little less for the second.Thank's for the replies. I was worried if I installed the suspension first without bigger sway bars it would handle horribly until I added them. I also figured it would be easier to install them while installing the other suspension parts. However, my main concern with sway bars is that it will make the ride much too firm since this is my daily driver. Thank's for the replies. I'd rather not have to spend the extra $400 or so if I don't need to.
im looking to get a set of pp sway bars from a member here. i have a non pp base gt. are any additional parts required to do the swap?The rear bar is also very easy to install.
For the front it's a direct swap, as the brackets and bushings are fixed to the bar. For the rear you just need the bar and bushings. Brackets are the same.im looking to get a set of pp sway bars from a member here. i have a non pp base gt. are any additional parts required to do the swap?
thanks