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This is just society today. People Like to complain about everything.

millhouse said:

That's because people's expectations are out of control.

For a vast majority, the shaker system is all we need. It's better than the system the camaros have.

People are going to shit their pants when the B&O system sounds marginally better than the shaker. Y'all will still be bitching and morning that an aftermarket system sounds far superior.

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Exactly. I never understood why people got so exited about car audio. The acoustic environment is just so bad (even on a quiet luxo-cruiser) that the only way you can tell the difference between "good enough" and better is sitting in the driveway with the engine off. If I can't tell the difference at 65mph at a comfortable medium volume, I don't care.

Just left the Atlanta car show and the new '18 race red GT looks great. It looks better in person than in pic's. The front end differences on the upper grill insert, glossy vs flat, recessed vs not recessed, are differences I wanted to see in person before passing judgement. Rear end dual exhaust tips and pedistal spoiler both look good. Red recaros looked good but couldnt get close enough to really check out the interior.

millhouse said:

That's because people's expectations are out of control.

For a vast majority, the shaker system is all we need. It's better than the system the camaros have.

People are going to shit their pants when the B&O system only sounds marginally better than the shaker. Y'all will still be bitching and moaning that an aftermarket system sounds far superior.

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Plus, if you're doing it right, the best sound system comes from the brands Corsa, Borla, AWE, Roush, Solo etc, etc.

TomcatDriver said:

Exactly. I never understood why people got so exited about car audio. The acoustic environment is just so bad (even on a quiet luxo-cruiser) that the only way you can tell the difference between "good enough" and better is sitting in the driveway with the engine off. If I can't tell the difference at 65mph at a comfortable medium volume, I don't care.

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I am of the belief, if you are going to have audio, then have audio. Don't half-ass it.


And ironically, a Car's "acoustic environment" is acoustically better than most people's homes. A car may actually be the best acoustic environment in which people get to listen to music, in their day-to-day lives.

Until you start to drive...



NOISE! ?
Do you play music, or are you listening to it..? Many times, when I got a new CD, I'd take it to my car for a good long listen. Even though I had a tube amp & headphones in the house.

We all understand environmental noise, and it is different from car to car, but having muddy sound does nothing for anyone, including your passengers. So why not?

Over the many years I have found, that a higher-fidelity system, allows for easier talking in the car, even at higher volumes. As One does not have to shout & can talk normal, because your ears are not straining/trying over the music.



Logically, in the end... all that ever needs to be done anymore, isn't amplification, etc... it is simply replacing the "paper" speakers, with good tonal quality ones, to whatever sound system you do have.) I listen to AM day-to-day, and good tonal quality (fidelity) is still a massive bonus there. But on the weekend & on the hunt..? And being able to go to 11 with some tight sounding kraftwerk... and ripping gears.

Sound is important. Just do it the right way.

TomcatDriver said:

Exactly. I never understood why people got so exited about car audio. The acoustic environment is just so bad (even on a quiet luxo-cruiser) that the only way you can tell the difference between "good enough" and better is sitting in the driveway with the engine off. If I can't tell the difference at 65mph at a comfortable medium volume, I don't care.

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My feelings exactly. A car cabin just doesn't seem to be the right place to focus on serious audio quality because there are so many other issues over which you have no control.

w3rkn said:

I am of the belief, if you are going to have audio, then have audio. Don't half-ass it.


And ironically, a Car's "acoustic environment" is acoustically better than most people's homes. A car may actually be the best acoustic environment in which people get to listen to music, in their day-to-day lives.

Until you start to drive...

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And there's the rub. Most of the time listening to car audio is while driving.

Yea, there is bad car audio. An there is an infinite continuum from bad through "good enough" up to audiophile level. Most people are not going to be able to tell the difference between good enough and audiophile unless the car is parked in the garage. The price difference however is immediately noticeable.

millhouse said:

That's because people's expectations are out of control.

For a vast majority, the shaker system is all we need. It's better than the system the camaros have.

People are going to shit their pants when the B&O system only sounds marginally better than the shaker. Y'all will still be bitching and moaning that an aftermarket system sounds far superior.

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I have the B&O in my '16 Audi TT, it's definitely not better than the Shaker Pro in the Mustang imho.

I think for everyday driving both systems are great, but if you are really into a highend stereo systems you have get an aftermarket solution

Well it's damn near April and we still don't know what the new motor is capable of?

I went to the DFW (Dallas) auto show Saturday. They had a 2018 prototype on display. To be honest it looks better in person. I dig the lower hoodline at the front, and the front fascia wasn't as horrible looking as I thought. There are lots of tweaks to the exterior styling. It will sell just fine, however the color of this particular car was a weird yellow that looked like mustard to me. I noticed the front grill is painted gloss black, kind of liked that. I would have more pics but we were shopping crossovers. On the upside I got to meet Chip Foose. He was out there with AJ and his "Hemisfear" creation. That made my day!

Great input, Genxer. I'm really encouraged by first hand accounts like yours... I cannot wait to see it for myself.

I am sad to hear about the paint though!! Was it Orange Fury? If so...I might have to reconsider my first paint choice. It sounds terrible.

Genxer said:

I went to the DFW (Dallas) auto show Saturday. They had a 2018 prototype on display. To be honest it looks better in person. I dig the lower hoodline at the front, and the front fascia wasn't as horrible looking as I thought. There are lots of tweaks to the exterior styling. It will sell just fine, however the color of this particular car was a weird yellow that looked like mustard to me. I noticed the front grill is painted gloss black, kind of liked that. I would have more pics but we were shopping crossovers. On the upside I got to meet Chip Foose. He was out there with AJ and his "Hemisfear" creation. That made my day!

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Thanks for sharing those pictures. I like what I am seeing and cannot wait to get my 2018 GTPP

Thanks for the photos. I have to say, I'm not a fan of Orange Fury, either. Least, not yet.

I'd really like to see a Magnetic Fastback at one of these shows.....I know there were some CGI images of a Magnetic one, but you can't beat a real car!

So far, I think the only show cars have been:


Orange Fury GT Fastback Perf Pack (above)

Race Red GT Fastback Perf Pack


Performance White GT Fastback with Blackout package



Lightning (or was it Kona!) Blue Ecoboost Fastback with white stripes



Ingot GT convertible



Royal Crimson Ecoboost convertible

Revisit...

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1685084&postcount=565

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1685094&postcount=568

Topnotch said:

Revisit...

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1685084&postcount=565

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1685094&postcount=568

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Nice! Awesome pictures. I missed these before. Thanks for reposting.