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Livernois Motorsports

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There are no additional charges for us to update your tuning remotely. We are using all of your build data, mods, octane and environmental information to build your tuning. So there is no more perfect information to use.

Anyone taking the native values and recalculating them into something else that gives a chance for things to be miscalculated. This is the biggest issues we see with data logging or tune monitoring.If someone​​ looks at AFR on a monitoring device, that value is already calculated. But the issue is what conversion are they using? 14.64? 14.08? something else? Now, what about what is in your tank. If they are assuming e10, and you have something more like e6, that instantly makes the applied conversion inc​​orrect. Then, what if they aren't grabbing the right data point from the ECM to log it? What if they are grabbing one with an offset already added in? or a delay? or a commanded VS actual average?​​
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You can see where one simple item like "AFR" is all of a sudden riddled with chances of incorrect data being displayed and/or gathered.​ ​Now, we haven't even started talking about boost, or any other myriad of items that could be logged. You see, the Data points that almost all dataloggers use are SAE. Now, SAE standards are nice, BUT they are not designed for someone to do calibration from. They are for repair shops to help diagnose issues with vehicles. So, the level of precision, and refresh rate is not what's needed to do proper calibration development. If you are using a data point with a 200ms refresh rate, but the actual value in the ECM refreshes every 8ms, then the ECM is updating 50x more frequently then what you are watching. Again, you start to see where the issues happen and it's easier to understand why we do not treat the EcoBoost like any other engine before it. Can someone get lucky and eventually end up with a tune that works by looking at the wrong data? Absolutely. Can they repeat those results over and over again without starting from scratch each time? Usually not. And it all stems from having the right knowledge, and data in the first place.

​N​o where does the computer spit out A/F data. Yet the data logger you're using is providing your tuner with this inaccurate A/F data. This is why we data log our own vehicles in house, to ensure it's the correct format and information required. What good does inaccurate data do anyone? That is how people end up with engine failures. Making tune adjustments from this incorrect data. When there is an option that allows remote, accurate, seamless data logging available, we wouldn't reject this, and is something we are working on developing, but again, it's not needed at all due to our procedures we have in place today.​​

To make it a little easier to picture for most people. ​​If Ford, GM, Chrysler, or any auto manufacturer could spend $30-50 on hardware to datalog and do calibration, why don't they? The answer is simple, you can't, it takes 10's of Thousands of dollars to have the right hardware just for the process to begin.​
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Lund is full of issues.. Livernios is having issues too?
What issues is Lund having? Only thing I'm aware of is some e85 stuff for a few people. Haven't heard anything about 91-93 tunes.
 

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We've got some bad ass tuning we offer through Lund Racing. Most of which was developed off of our own 2016 GT350 which was the first into the 10's as well as the first supercharged GT350 on the planet.

Here's a link to the Lund Racing nGauge with their custom tune that we offer.
http://www.lethalperformance.com/sh...otion-ngauge-tuning-and-monitoring-gauge.html

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If you have any other questions please feel free to give us a call.

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We've got some bad ass tuning we offer through Lund Racing. Most of which was developed off of our own 2016 GT350 which was the first into the 10's as well as the first supercharged GT350 on the planet.
What would the difference? It's still a Lund tune.

You guys had remote dyno tuning or an actual tuner which is better than an email tune.
 

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What would the difference? It's still a Lund tune.

You guys had remote dyno tuning or an actual tuner which is better than an email tune.
Not necessarily. You can get a local dyno tune from someone with no experience tuning one of these cars which will never stack up with a Lund Racing email tune.

Experience is key. Dyno or not.
 

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GT350's are breaking 500whp N/A?? Jesus, this motor is something else!
Yeah I can't believe how much you can get out of this motor N/A.
 

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What are you doing with your car that you feel like you need more power?
Some things you just can't have too much of ... money, sex, horsepower :D
 

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What are you doing with your car that you feel like you need more power?
I do believe this is a track car..... So the objective is to get from start to finish as quickly as possible.
 

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What are you doing with your car that you feel like you need more power?
What are you doing with your car that you feel you need the Track Pack?:shrug:
 

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Very happy with my Lund flex fuel tune. Not a single issue other than a rough idle at startup that lasts2-3 seconds then smooths out. With the Lund tune and JLT CAI I dyno'd at 510rwhp on a mustang dyno.:headbang:
 

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Thank you for the mention!

However, we are having no issues like Lund at all with our GT350/350R tuning. We have remotely tuned a dozen or so already! With some awesome gains as well I might add:
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Sorry to dig up this old thread, but what headers/CIA are you running for this. I'm interested. Headers a CIA really seemed to help after 6k.
 

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Do these tunes void the factory engine/powertrain warranty?
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