Turbonetics twinscroll DBB direct swap turbo

I noticed Steeda has a replacement turbo option listed online from Turbonetics (They obviously drop ship direct from Turbonetics).

https://www.steeda.com/Turbonetics-...74c6ec-502f76f6d6-104031177&mc_cid=502f76f6d6

Rated at 520HP with mods. And its a Turbonetics which I happen to like.

"Capable of 520hp with supporting mods (with custom tune)"

Maybe i'm still a bit new here, new to the Mustang - What can a stock Ecoboost engine / transmission actually handle?

Cause I'm stupid enough to say f'it and actually buy this, not knowing that I should of first upgraded pistons or rods or what have you...

Is something like this "safe" on a daily driver that'll only really be pushed from a red light start for a little fun / not on a track ?

About 400whp with auxillary fueling is the max for the stock block.

Pretty competitive price with the Vargas S2. I wonder how they stack up against each other?

lsiunsuex said:

"Capable of 520hp with supporting mods (with custom tune)"

Maybe i'm still a bit new here, new to the Mustang - What can a stock Ecoboost engine / transmission actually handle?

Cause I'm stupid enough to say f'it and actually buy this, not knowing that I should of first upgraded pistons or rods or what have you...

Is something like this "safe" on a daily driver that'll only really be pushed from a red light start for a little fun / not on a track ?

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I think they are stating that as two statements, they just used () instead of a comma. Either way your tuner will only be able to tune your vehicle to what it can support anyway, so around 25PSI where you would start to run out of fuel/octane you would not be near 520HP either way. I would not pick too much on the vague nature of the marketing, they kinda try to lure you in with that statement without blatantly lying about the requirements. =)

Either way its a dual ball bearing unit, unlike the VTT offering and its a known brand which is good for the market.

I am kinda on the fence, I just finished adding some addons to my methanol setup so I may be in the market.

All depends on fuel. My car probably makes about 460-480 HP with 30k miles and over 100 passes. What me and Mark (perfweld) have been preaching is feed her right and she'll treat you right. When guys are pushing the limits with 93 octane or e30 it's a lot less forgiving. I run Sunoco 260 gt plus which is about $11 a gallon.

Slow89 said:

All depends on fuel. My car probably makes about 460-480 HP with 30k miles and over 100 passes. What me and Mark (perfweld) have been preaching is feed her right and she'll treat you right. When guys are pushing the limits with 93 octane or e30 it's a lot less forgiving. I run Sunoco 260 gt plus which is about $11 a gallon.

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Yeah.... turbo engines are pretty sensitive to fuel from what I have read over the time I've been on this forum. I plan to add WMI before going with a bigger turbo.

Is this actually out now? This has been advertised for quite a while now but as coming soon. At least 6 months but less than a year. Adam from Tune+ had been looking into this but gave up due to the delays and went with Vargas dual scroll.

Banjo said:

Is this actually out now? This has been advertised for quite a while now but as coming soon. At least 6 months but less than a year. Adam from Tune+ had been looking into this but gave up due to the delays and went with Vargas dual scroll.

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Well I know from turbonetics site it was pre-order, but now its being shown on Steeda's product line up, so I am not sure if it was scrapped, as it would not make sense for Steeda to offer it. I suppose a direct call to them is in order. I'll post a response from Steeda shortly...

According to Steeda it is still in a Pre-order status, they are going to shoot me a e-mail when they get a final date on shipping. He said it should not be too long, and from the tone it sounded like there is more validity that it is coming out soon since they just posted it in their product catalog. Will have to see.

Originally it was supposed to be released around Q1 2017 however its been in pre-order status on Turbonetic's site since Jan. Maybe its a matter of seeing how much interest there has been.

Talked with Rod from Steeda. He told me that they would be able to tune my car with this turbo on the Dyno at Pompano Beach location. Of course, I will wait to see some good reviews before I give it a go...:cheers:

Turbonetics has been saying its coming out soon for over a year, wouldn't hold your breath

Honestly, for the price, I'd go with the Vargas Stage 2. The Stage 2 is slightly larger and $500 cheaper. Plus, it's available right now. Like Phil said, they've been saying this is going to be "coming soon" for over a year. It's looking like it's going to end up like the Cavalli turbo. We all see how that turned out.

Juben said:

Honestly, for the price, I'd go with the Vargas Stage 2. The Stage 2 is slightly larger and $500 cheaper. Plus, it's available right now. Like Phil said, they've been saying this is going to be "coming soon" for over a year. It's looking like it's going to end up like the Cavalli turbo. We all see how that turned out.

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Yeah the reason I am bringing this up is that another vendor is now showing it as a catalog item, and they may have more info than we do. With it being so far past Q1 I am hoping it is sooner than later, as far as the price difference, one is dual ball bearing, one is journal bearing, so there's that.

5.0yote said:

one is dual ball bearing, one is journal bearing, so there's that.

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I'd believe it'd be a point of diminishing gains though. The VS2 will hit 28 psi at 3,000 rpms. There's only a couple mm difference in size (VS2 is larger), and truthfully, with these turbos still being on the smaller side, you wouldn't see the big difference between journal and ball bearing like you would on something larger, like a 6766. To me, the additional cost wouldn't provide anything worth justifying it unless you just really like Turbonetics or want it to be doing something different.

Confirmed that this unit is shipping as of last week to pre-order customers, I was told by Turbonetics directly that regular orders will be shipping by December 15th and anyone is interested in their unit to order now as the demand is high.

Steeda has the unit in their online site as well as directly from Turbonetics.

As far as the debate on the Vargas unit or this one will come down to brand, longevity and quality. I happen to like Turbonetics in general, certainly over say PTE, but slightly less than BW. However as far as cost is concerned after you factor in everything the cost is a minor difference. It is still over 500WHP capable which puts it around the PTE 5862 as far as output, but with the twinscroll benefits and their quality.

Being different I think has less of a factor in choice. =)