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welp.Both the PZero and PZero Nero are available in 255/40/19 on the Mustang.
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welp.Both the PZero and PZero Nero are available in 255/40/19 on the Mustang.
Don't understand why the 20's and PP are the only ones that come with summer tires.
exactly, so why force it on them if they want the 20's? Or vise versa? Just make it a stand-alone option to go to summer tires. I get the PP coming with summer tires, that makes sense. This is a performance car for crying out loud! The 50th LEs have summer tires on them too, with no option for the owners to have all-seasons....:rant:Summer tires have a lot of compromises that some(many) people aren't willing to deal with all year round.
That's true and makes sense about the LE cars. But doesn't explain why the 20s has summer tires. Tuning of chassis is the sameYou just said that it makes sense to you that the PP cars come with summer tires. The 50th LE cars are PP cars, that's what's driving the tire choice. The PP chassis tuning and calibration is all done around the summer tires. Its a package for a reason - you start changing things like tires and the tuning goes out the window, and that sort of thing really is a big deal to the vehicle dynamics guys doing the tuning. It makes sense to me that there is no all-season option. As an aside, its rather unfortunate that all that tuning work goes for naught as soon as a customer replaces the original tires with whatever they find that's cheapest, or slap on lowering springs, etc...
Yeah that's why Audis and BMWs and such are so expensive, because they offer these things (somewhat). Corvette and even the Camaro to an extent do a better job than what's being offered on the Mustang, however, and they stay competitive in price. I'm not surprised what Ford has packaged, just slightly disappointed. Silly that they won't offer things they could easily make money on like a PP for GT convertibles or automatics (Corvette and Camaro offer similar packages)....since we all know industry is about the mighty $$$!But in 1964, the industry was very different. The way cars were made, in terms of construction, materials, labor, complexity, equipment, even the design cycle was quite different. In some ways, many of the parts were actually far more intricate (look at the grillework on a Cadillac of the era) then we see today, but on the other hand, the cars had to package far less content. They had to meet far simpler regulations, and the customers were far less demanding.
I think that any company offering that level of option content today wouldn't be able to survive without charging an extreme premium. In moderately high-volume cars like Mustang, I just don't think that its practical or viable to run that sort of level of complexity when you consider the level of costs that are built into a new car and still be able to make a profit at a reasonable price. They get away with containing the overall cost by making the process as efficient as possible. That's just the nature of the market today.
sad someone who just wants leather has to pony up (no pun intended) $5000 to get the premium package. Oh well, first world problems! :-)
No the main reason they are so expensive is that they can get away with it. The whole 'premium' image is carefully marketed and sold to people who don't mind overpaying for what is basically a very poorly equipped base car and paying through the nose for individual options.Yeah that's why Audis and BMWs and such are so expensive, because they offer these things (somewhat).
Merged threads and updated first post. MikeAZ obtained the info below from FordService.Hey guys I ordered a triple yellow gt 6 speed gt premium track pack and recaros . I m trying to buy wheels before the car gets delievered . do we know if the offsets will be the same as older models so I know what fits flush?
Just got confirmation from @FordService on Twitter on the performance pack offsets:
Ford Service @FordService Follow Hi again! 'Stangs have a 5 x 114.3mm bolt pattern; the offset for the Perf Pckg wheels is 19 x 9.0x 45mm & 19x 9.5x 52.5mm ...
There are no special considerations for the 19x9.0 wheels & performance brakes. Hope that helps! ^SL
While I put down F1 for the standard GT tire, I'm not sure what it is now. Neither press release posted here claims to be the OE GT tire. Pirelli doesn't claim anything in 18" and the Goodyear press release only says I4 and V6.Merged threads and updated first post. MikeAZ obtained the info below from FordService.
Hey guys I ordered a triple yellow gt 6 speed gt premium track pack and recaros . I m trying to buy wheels before the car gets delievered . do we know if the offsets will be the same as older models so I know what fits flush?