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GT350 lap time vs. M3, C63S, ATS-V, Alfa QF

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I need to say something about these Alfa Romeo's. I owned an Alfa Romeo 156 back in europe and its really not that special. Quality wise little better than Fiat but thats all. Here in the states people think whatever Italian is amazing but just to give you heads up.

As for the track pack gt350, i m really not sure what to say to this comparison. Looks like 1le camaro can really be faster than the gt350. I m really disappointed! The car is sold for 56 grand minimum, a corvette money. Meanwhile i can find a 1le for 40.5 grand in my area. Even a zl1 camaro can be bought for 63 grand now. Ford needs to put its foot down. If it wasn't for the regular mustang sales, they would be in trouble.
It's all about the tires. The 1LE Camaro has a stickier tire. It doesn't matter how much suspension wizardry a car has if it doesn't have the mechanical grip of the tire to back it up. Hence why the GT350R is about 3 seconds faster than a standard 350 a lap at most tracks. The performance difference of the R is all in the wheels and tires. If you really want know which car is better then make sure they have the same tire contact to weight ratio and the same tires, that's an apples to apples comparison.
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It's all about the tires. The 1LE Camaro has a stickier tire. It doesn't matter how much suspension wizardry a car has if it doesn't have the mechanical grip of the tire to back it up. Hence why the GT350R is about 3 seconds faster than a standard 350 a lap at most tracks. The performance difference of the R is all in the wheels and tires. If you really want know which car is better then make sure they have the same tire contact to weight ratio and the same tires, that's an apples to apples comparison.
It might be the tires but the car is coming with all that for little over 40 grand. Good set of tires especially wide ones will cost around $1500. Thats not cheap.
 

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With starting MSRP:

1) Alfa Romeo Giulia QF - 2:00.22 - $72,050

2) BMW M3 Competition - 2:00.61 - $67,195

3) Cadillac ATS-V - 2:00.81 - $61,690

4) Ford Shelby GT350 - 2:00.82 - $54,845

5) Mercedes C63S AMG - 2:02.49 - $73,725
Comp pack M3 starts at 69745 with manual, 72645 with DCT
 
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Was I the only fool trying to get those pictures to play?:headbonk:
 

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Op could you please lists which cars are manual and which cars are DCT/auto?

if they are all manual I have a feeling GT350 might beat them all. I know Alfa doesn't sell manual in USA
 

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also was the time for GT350 done on the same day? the time you quoted was from an older eps.
 

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Op could you please lists which cars are manual and which cars are DCT/auto?

if they are all manual I have a feeling GT350 might beat them all. I know Alfa doesn't sell manual in USA
I think you guys are expecting way too much from the gt350! Its main mission was to take the crown from the old z28, and mission was accomplished. Lets leave it at that :thumbsup:
 

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I think you guys are expecting way too much from the gt350! Its main mission was to take the crown from the old z28, and mission was accomplished. Lets leave it at that :thumbsup:
Price yes, performance no. Only the R beat the Z28.:cheers:
 

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The prices are what they are. GG is $1300, which still leaves a 10K difference between the GT350 and M3 at base, for example. If you add for electronics/convenience pkgs, do the same for the other cars and increase accordingly.
The equivalent electronics pack on the M3 is standard.
 

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Comp pack M3 starts at 69745 with manual, 72645 with DCT
I think that's the M4 price not the M3. Also I can get 5% off on the M cars, why the GT350 is still selling with an ADM, at least in my market.
 

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Pretty much most auto's weight more then manuals, but not 100lbs. Depending on setup, between 20-40lbs.:cheers:
DCT cars are 76lbs. heavier than the 6mt cars for the BMWs.
 

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Tests were done on a different day.

Motortrend needs to do a GT350 vs M4.
Base m4 in plain white with cloth seats is $67,195
Base GT350 is $57,045

Gimme the V8 any day.
 

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I think the magnetic pull of the moon may also have affected those shocks differently on a different day :crazy: :p
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