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great info and post upI am in exactly the same situation- just starting HPDE in a base 2015 GT. My instructor recommended his brake specialist www.zeckhausen.com to inquire about upgrading pads for continuing HDPE in my daily driver. I talked with CJ Pony Parts in my local area and Zeckhausen by email. With no disrespect to CJ Pony Parts at all, the email reply I got from zeckhausen was excellent and thorough. I'd be glad to copy & paste the content of their reply if you wish, but I didn't want to flood the board with too much content since I'm such a newbie myself. He had to research to find pads for a non-PP, but he recommended these Porterfield R4-S.
https://www.zeckhausen.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=11_90_6439_6441&products_id=21196
https://www.zeckhausen.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=21198
I just had them installed yesterday, and I'll be tracking them in mid April at Lime Rock Park. For whatever it's worth, my first HPDE experience was a Pocono raceway with the stock pads and everything held up fine for the entire day, including withstanding the heavy braking from the NASCAR backstretch to the infield road course.
Pricey!I am in exactly the same situation- just starting HPDE in a base 2015 GT. My instructor recommended his brake specialist www.zeckhausen.com to inquire about upgrading pads for continuing HDPE in my daily driver. I talked with CJ Pony Parts in my local area and Zeckhausen by email. With no disrespect to CJ Pony Parts at all, the email reply I got from zeckhausen was excellent and thorough. I'd be glad to copy & paste the content of their reply if you wish, but I didn't want to flood the board with too much content since I'm such a newbie myself. He had to research to find pads for a non-PP, but he recommended these Porterfield R4-S.
https://www.zeckhausen.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=11_90_6439_6441&products_id=21196
https://www.zeckhausen.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=21198
I just had them installed yesterday, and I'll be tracking them in mid April at Lime Rock Park. For whatever it's worth, my first HPDE experience was a Pocono raceway with the stock pads and everything held up fine for the entire day, including withstanding the heavy braking from the NASCAR backstretch to the infield road course.
Great info, thanks! FYI the HP+ is a pretty decent dual use pad. It holds up very well to sustained hard braking on track. That said, the squealing at cold temps on the street is very pronounced.Below I'll post the content from David Zeckhausen as I inquired about options for my non-PP GT. It seems there aren't nearly as many options for these smaller brakes. CJ Pony Parts' rep recommended the Hawk HPS pads, but reading reviews on Tirerack gave a lot of negative reviews from track use.
I installed the Portfields yesterday and they have given no brake noise during daily driving use. My 2015 GT has one day of track use under it's belt and has just hit 30k, and when my mechanic friend bled the brake fluid as he changed the pads, he found it in great condition with no air bubbles. Hope Zeckhausen's info is helpful for anyone else in the same situation of beginning HPDE with a non-PP GT.
"There aren't many pad choices, especially in race friction or even dual-use (street & track). I've reached out to Porterfield in California to see if they'll make their R4-S high performance street compound in the front and rear shapes for your car. If they agree, then that would be the no-brainer choice as you progress from Novice to Intermediate level and continue running high performance street tires. As you progress further, we'll have to discuss other options. By then, maybe Hawk and Performance Friction will have some intermediate street/track pads available."
(subsequent followup email)
Porterfield agreed to make the R4-S dual-use pad, in addition to the R4 race pad. Hawk HPS would be a disaster. When that pad reaches its maximum operating temperature, the friction level falls off rapidly and with very little warning to the driver. It's a great street pad, but a deadly track pad. I think some folks get confused between HPS and HP PLUS, which is why you see some recommendations for it. That would be a bad mistake.
Hawk Street-Race is functionally equivalent to their DTC-30 race pads, if you look at their torque curves vs temperature. It might be an option, but the noise would probably drive you crazy. My suggestion for now is Porterfield R4-S.
No need to upgrade the brake fluid over a normal DOT4, like ATE TYP200. Just make sure it's fresh. Meaning bleed it within a week or two of your first track day. Then play it by ear, to see if you might need another bleed after a few events."
Ugh yeah, they're garbage. The car's performance with those is subpar even for a non-PP car. Just wait till you upgrade.Well I just got done running an AUTOX event today, stock 4 pots did great and had no issues what so ever. I wont be upgrading to 6 pots for a very long time as I dont think its really needed. A Road course would be different but I have a feeling they wont fade. Main issue are these crappy ass factory P zero all seasons. Horrible tire.
What recommendations would you or any other replier give for a tire upgrade for tracking + daily driver usage? Anyone have any input on the Continental ExtremeContact Sport reviews on the forum? http://www.mustang6g.com/?p=10871Ugh yeah, they're garbage. The car's performance with those is subpar even for a non-PP car. Just wait till you upgrade.
Squeaking and dust aside, the HP+ is still marginal at best as a street pad due to rapid rotor wear in street settings. Been there. Even XP12's don't beat the rotors up the way HP+'s do, not even close.Great info, thanks! FYI the HP+ is a pretty decent dual use pad. It holds up very well to sustained hard braking on track. That said, the squealing at cold temps on the street is very pronounced.
Don't even try to predict road course fade resistance based on either street or autocross driving.Well I just got done running an AUTOX event today, stock 4 pots did great and had no issues what so ever. I wont be upgrading to 6 pots for a very long time as I dont think its really needed. A Road course would be different but I have a feeling they wont fade. Main issue are these crappy ass factory P zero all seasons. Horrible tire.