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Old 10-16-2017, 08:15 AM   #1
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Question 2018 Auto Start-Stop Technology?

I've not seen reference to it, but does anyone know if the 2018 GT gets auto start-stop?
The new F 150's are so equipped and it might be quite good, but I don't really want it in my Mustang.
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If it is you should be able to turn it off right?
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If anything the automatics would have it, and it's always something that can be disabled in mostly all equipped cars.
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It's always something you can disable, but it's not always a feature that is permanently disabled. I know that in many euro cars, the feature has to automatically enable itself every time the car starts up in order to meet certain emissions standards in parts of the world.
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It's always something you can disable, but it's not always a feature that is permanently disabled. I know that in many euro cars, the feature has to automatically enable itself every time the car starts up in order to meet certain emissions standards in parts of the world.
All the F 150 trucks enable it each time the vehicle starts up.
Here is the sort of thing the truck owners do to turn it off automatically...

To disable the auto start/stop feature you need to jumper a wire on the on/off switch on the radio bezel. This will make the system think the button is pressed to off each time the engine is started. To remove the bezel just pull up on the tray on top of the dash. Remove the 2 7mm screws under the tray to loosen the radio bezel. Pull the bezel off by pulling from top to bottom. Either unplug the wire harness to the on/off switch or push the switch out of the bezel by pressing the tabs in on both sides of the switch and push it out. Jumper the purple and white wire by either splicing a wire between the 2 wires or shoving wire in the back of the harness until its secure and wont move. A piece of safety wire in the socket is less permanent and can be removed easily.

https://www.f150forum.com/f118/disab...p-good-332431/
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It is on every Focus RS which is manual only, so I don't doubt it will be on every Mustang.

And if it is like the RS it cannot be permanently disabled and your routine will be at every start up to disable this along with putting the car is sport mode.
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That bypass sounds like a huge PITA.

I know that this feature is going to be standard on all combustion engines within the coming years, but for some reason it really bugs me (I'm probably making a bigger deal out of it than I should be).

Does the 5.0 on the F-150 do it as well? Cranking up a V8 after every stop seems like it would cause a ton of wear on the starter.
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Does then system read the car as stopped by engine speed or vehicle speed? Could you just keep your foot on the gas to increase the rpms to fool the system into thinking its not stopped? If that were the case maybe a tuner could turn it off permanently.
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This is a feature on the daily driver I share with my wife (Mercedes GLK350) and to put it plainly we really dislike it. The implementation from MB is supposedly one of the best, and in truth it really doesn't interrupt us - starts fast and has not been an issue. It concerns me for wear and tear, and perhaps because I'm not so far removed from days when a car stopping at a light was a bad thing, makes me nervous ever time it does it.

Our routine is start the car, tap the button to turn that feature off, drive the car...I will re-enable it on longer highway trips however. I, for one, was happy to see it wasn't even an option on my '17 GT and would feel the same on an '18... this is not an eco focused vehicle
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We have it on one of our Mercedes, you can turn it off but not permanently, it reactivates each time you start. I am not a fan of the feature, not sure it really saves much and wear would seem excessive over time. Also, if you are stopped at a long red light, it restarts the car as it can't stay off too long running AC.

That hack to turn if off in the F150 is not great, I would like to see an option in the menu or via reflash
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To disable the auto start/stop feature you need to jumper a wire on the on/off switch on the radio bezel.

https://www.f150forum.com/f118/disab...p-good-332431/
This reads like the F-150 has a physical button near the radio to turn it on/off - does the RS have the same button?

If Ford is controlling this with a physical switch, we might be able to see it in some of the 2018 interior photos.
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Here it is on the F-150 (A with a circle)



Here it is on the RS:



Anyone seen this "A" button inside the 2018?
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I didn't see any buttons or switches with an "A" when I sat inside two 2018 Mustangs...
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FYI - the auto stop feature shows up in both the RS and F-150 manuals posted online, but it is not in the 2018 Mustang manual that Ford has posted.

It's only a matter of time before the Mustang has this feature, but the 2018 may have dodged a bullet.
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Is there ASS (auto stop/start) on any manual transmission cars? It would seem to me a manual car uses so little gas idling (not pushing to not stall against a torque convertor) that it would make very little difference.

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