Official: 2018 Mustang GT Has 460HP, 0-60MPH in Under 4.0 Secs; EcoBoost Sub 5-Secs

Ford's option packaging decisions are questionable and frustrating.

Overall price points for all Mustang models and desirable options are surprisingly higher than expected.
I beleive that Ford's pricing strategy is motivated by a desire to compete with Camaro prices and to move the Mustang globally upmarket.
Unless a base type model is desired, the top performance level Mustang with the most desirable options (GT) is no longer affordable for the average Joe/Jane.

After the new model introduction and related hype passes, sales may not meet expectations...?

On the other hand:
You've got to pay to play.
Increased performance and related technology never comes cheap.

My '16 is a keeper.

Nice gain and no lag in torque shifting will make this car a beast similar to the Z06

ALUSA said:

17 V10 plus? From that chart it also beat the Mclaren 570S and Grand Sport Vette.

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Huh? No it didn't. Audi R8 V10 Plus got 2:57.1 and the Grand Sport Corvette got 2:47.1 - faster times are to the right and down. Lower is better.

StangLuver said:

Huh? No it didn't. Audi R8 V10 Plus got 2:57.1 and the Grand Sport Corvette got 2:47.1 - faster times are to the right and down. Lower is better.

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:doh:

I m talking about Laguna Seca not that one. They just tested the new ZL1 1LE camaro. The one you showed is from a year or two ago isn't it?

1:33.70 2013 ZR1
1:34.30 2018 ZL1-1LE
1:34.43 2012 Z06
1:37.82 2014 Z/28


Ranking:


1. Acura ARX-01b unknown 1:10.10 558 / 825
2. Porsche RS Spyder (Evo) unknown 1:10.35 510 / 775
3. Acura ARX-01a unknown 1:10.91 558 / 825
4. Audi R10 TDI unknown 1:11.17 659 / 925
5. Porsche RS Spyder unknown 1:14.03 487 / 775
6. Dodge Viper ACR (Mk V) Randy Pobst 1:28.65 654 / 1541
7. Porsche 918 Spyder Randy Pobst 1:29.89 887 / 1665
8. McLaren P1 Randy Pobst 1:30.71 916 / 1519
9. Dodge Viper ACR (Mk V) unknown 1:31.58 654 / 1541
10. Mercedes-Benz AMG GT R unknown 1:33.01 585 / 1614
11. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C7) Randy Pobst 1:33.05 659 / 1609
12. Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 (997) Jesse Menczer 1:33.10 500 / 1360
13. Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991) unknown 1:33.29 500 / 1426
14. Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991) Randy Pobst 1:33.29 500 / 1426
15. SRT Viper TA Randy Pobst 1:33.62 649 / 1520
16. Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 Randy Pobst 1:33.70 647 / 1528
17. Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR Chris Winkler 1:33.92 608 / 1536
18. SRT Viper GTS Randy Pobst 1:34.23 649 / 1560
19. Audi R8 V10 Plus (Mk II) unknown 1:34.23 610 / 1635
20. Camaro ZL1 1LE Package unknown 1:34.30 664 / 1737
21. Corvette Z06 Z07 Package unknown 1:34.43 512 / 1436
22. McLaren MP4-12C Randy Pobst 1:34.50 600 / 1434
23. McLaren 570S unknown 1:34.58 570 / 1462
24. SRT Viper Randy Pobst 1:34.63 649 / 1520
25. Nissan GT-R Nismo (R35) unknown 1:35.01 600 / 1740
26. SLS AMG Black Series Randy Pobst 1:35.03 631 / 1620
27. Devon GTX unknown 1:35.07 659 / -
28. Mercedes-Benz AMG GT S unknown 1:35.30 510 / 1674
29. Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4 Randy Pobst 1:35.40 700 / 1721
30. Nissan GT-R Nismo (R35) Randy Pobst 1:35.51 600 / 1740
31. Porsche 911 GT2 RS (997) Johannes van Overbee 1:35.56 620 / 1370
32. Mercedes-Benz AMG GT S Randy Pobst 1:35.57 510 / 1674
33. Porsche 911 Turbo S (991) Randy Pobst 1:35.62 560 / 1610
34. Ford Shelby Mustang GT350R unknown 1:36.11 - / -
35. Ferrari 458 Italia Randy Pobst 1:36.22 570 / 1517
36. Nissan GT-R (R35 530 PS) unknown 1:36.35 530 / 1736
37. Honda NSX (Mk II) unknown 1:36.36 581 / 1766
38. Lexus LFA unknown 1:36.39 560 / 1609
39. Audi R8 GT unknown 1:36.39 560 / 1550
40. Porsche 911 Carrera S unknown 1:36.44 420 / 1495
41. Nissan GT-R (R35 550 PS) Randy Pobst 1:36.63 550 / 1736
42. Porsche 911 GT3 RS unknown 1:36.77 450 / 1400
43. Nissan GT-R (R35 570PS) unknown 1:37.08 570 / 1791
44. Porsche Cayman GT4 (981) Randy Pobst 1:37.43 385 / 1340
45. BMW M4 GTS unknown 1:37.66 500 / 1599
46. Camaro SS 1LE Package unknown 1:37.78 461 / 1698
47. Porsche 911 Turbo unknown 1:37.80 500 / 1570
48. Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 Randy Pobst 1:37.82 507 / 1702
49. Ferrari F12 Berlinetta Randy Pobst 1:38.04 740 / 1699
50. Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Randy Pobst 1:38.28 461 / 1577
51. Cadillac CTS-V (Mk III) Randy Pobst 1:38.52 649 / 1884
52. Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 unknown 1:38.70 647 / 1528
53. Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Randy Pobst 1:38.70 659 / 1750
54. Audi R8 V10 5.2 FSI Plus Randy Pobst 1:38.70 550 / 1622
55. Jaguar F-Type SVR unknown 1:38.75 575 / 1797
56. Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG unknown 1:38.82 571 / 1670
57. C 63 AMG Coupe Black Series Randy Pobst 1:38.90 517 / 1748
58. Porsche 911 Carrera 4S (991) Randy Pobst 1:39.00 400 / 1465
59. Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Randy Pobst 1:39.18 588 / 1838
60. Porsche 911 Carrera S (991) Randy Pobst 1:39.30 400 / 1415
61. Ford Mustang Boss 302 LS unknown 1:39.50 443 / 1652
62. Porsche 911 GT3 (997) unknown 1:39.52 415 / 1395
63. Cadillac ATS-V Coupe Randy Pobst 1:39.65 470 / 1636
64. BMW M4 Randy Pobst 1:39.69 431 / 1545
65. Porsche 911 Turbo (997) unknown 1:39.89 480 / 1585
66. Porsche 911 Turbo S unknown 1:40.11 530 / 1585
67. Audi R8 V10 5.2 FSI (Mk I) unknown 1:40.20 525 / 1620
68. Nissan GT-R (R35) unknown 1:40.45 480 / 1740
69. Mercedes-Benz C 63 AMG S Randy Pobst 1:40.50 510 / 1743
70. BMW M6 (F13) Randy Pobst 1:40.52 560 / 1896
71. Aston Martin AM 310 Vanquish Randy Pobst 1:40.71 573 / 1739
72. Audi R8 4.2 FSI Quattro (Mk I) unknown 1:40.75 420 / 1560
73. Jaguar F-Type V8 S Randy Pobst 1:40.81 495 / 1665
74. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C6) unknown 1:40.90 512 / 1437
75. Porsche Cayman S (981) Randy Pobst 1:41.26 325 / 1320
76. Porsche Cayman R (987) unknown 1:41.64 330 / 1320
77. Aston Martin V12 Vantage S unknown 1:41.77 573 / 1665
78. Jaguar F-Type R Coupe Randy Pobst 1:42.00 550 / 1665
79. E 63 AMG S T-Modell Randy Pobst 1:42.39 585 / -
80. Lotus Evora S unknown 1:42.49 351 / 1437
81. Jaguar XKR-S (550 PS) Randy Pobst 1:42.90 551 / 1843
82. BMW M3 (E92) unknown 1:42.96 420 / 1580
83. Audi RS5 (8T3 facelift) unknown 1:42.97 450 / 1686
84. Porsche Cayman S unknown 1:43.00 320 / 1375
85. Ford Mustang Boss 302 LS Randy Pobst 1:43.00 443 / 1652
86. Aston Martin V12 Vantage unknown 1:43.04 517 / 1680
87. Lexus RC F Randy Pobst 1:43.20 477 / 1795
88. BMW 1 Series M Coupe unknown 1:43.31 340 / 1513
89. C 63 AMG Coupe Edition 507 Randy Pobst 1:43.45 507 / 1755
90. C 63 AMG Edition 507 unknown 1:43.45 507 / 1756
91. Bentley Continental GT-3 R unknown 1:43.51 580 / 2195
92. Bentley Continental GT-3 R Randy Pobst 1:43.51 580 / 2195
93. Alfa Romeo 4C Randy Pobst 1:43.78 240 / 895
94. Cadillac CTS-V (Mk II) unknown 1:43.90 564 / 1980
95. BMW i8 Randy Pobst 1:44.29 367 / 1490
96. Shelby GT500 unknown 1:44.30 547 / 1767
97. Shelby Cobra 427 S/C unknown 1:44.46 492 / 1136
98. Shelby Cobra 427 S/C unknown 1:44.46 431 / 1070
99. Shelby GT500 unknown 1:44.72 507 / 1807
100. Shelby Mustang Cobra GT500KR unknown 1:44.72 540 / 1773
101. Porsche 911 Carrera unknown 1:45.00 345 / 1415
102. Jaguar XFR (Mk I) unknown 1:45.37 510 / 1960
103. Chevrolet Camaro SS unknown 1:45.70 432 / 1750
104. Lotus Exige 240R unknown 1:45.82 247 / 941
105. Toyota Supra RZ Kurosawa Motoharu 1:45.87 284 / 1640
106. BMW 135i Coupe (E82) unknown 1:46.00 306 / 1485
107. VW Golf R (Mk VII) Randy Pobst 1:46.01 300 / 1401
108. Nissan Nismo 370Z unknown 1:46.50 355 / 1500
109. Bentley Continental GT Speed Randy Pobst 1:46.60 625 / 2320
110. Subaru WRX STI Randy Pobst 1:47.16 309 / 1545
111. Porsche Cayman S (987) unknown 1:47.58 295 / 1406
112. Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X MR unknown 1:47.71 295 / 1585
113. Chevrolet Cobalt SS/TC unknown 1:47.75 264 / 1352
114. Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX unknown 1:47.93 290 / 1482
115. BMW 335i Coupe unknown 1:49.04 306 / 1610
116. Ford Focus ST Randy Pobst 1:49.30 250 / 1432
117. Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) unknown 1:50.00 355 / 1420
118. VW Golf GTI (Mk VII 220 PS) Randy Pobst 1:50.11 220 / 1351

ALUSA said:

:doh:

I m talking about Laguna Seca not that one. They just tested the new ZL1 1LE camaro. The one you showed is from a year or two ago isn't it?

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It's from the latest Lightning Lap in 2016. It's (VIR - Virginia International Raceway) also the longest racetrack in the USA, which makes it the closest thing to a Nurburgring that we have. Plus it has ten years of every new car being tested on it, so lots of comparisons can be made.

As stated, the MSRP is lower than 3% and PDI increases output from 25-35hp. The GT gains a little less than $2000 ($33,1xx vs $35,0xx) which is still $2700 less than the cheapest SS. As you go up, the gap gets larger.

460hp is just a taste and an MSRP increase of less than 3% with a refresh AND drivetrain upgrade is total value.

If you really want a Camaro, hold out. There will be a fire sale coming in the Fall/Winter. I'm not 100% convinced the Camaro will even get a refresh in 2019. They need a powertrain upgrade now.

Man, this is a cold-hearted strategy but the Mustang and FoMoCo. What an amazing deal for $35,000.

"NONE of the S550 Mustangs, no matter what gearing or trans they had was able to do better than a 12.9 stock."

thehunterooo said:

"NONE of the S550 Mustangs, no matter what gearing or trans they had was able to do better than a 12.9 stock."

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That's because those magazines can't drag race to save their life. But all the non driving know it all think they do good. :lol:


Lighting laps are hilarious, just a side note. Horrible way to compare cars. Same driver, same day or no care. And not these wussy editors either, Randy probst at a minimum or gtfo.

mustang_guy said:

That's because those magazines can't drag race to save their life. But all the non driving know it all think they do good. :lol:


Lighting laps are hilarious, just a side note. Horrible way to compare cars. Same driver, same day or no care. And not these wussy editors either, Randy probst at a minimum or gtfo.

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LOL that one came from C6, the really bad part is that the fast list thread shows multiple cars under 12.9 that are stock.......I can understand people don't like the car but there are actual slips that prove the person is wrong lol

thehunterooo said:

LOL that one came from C6, the really bad part is that the fast list thread shows multiple cars under 12.9 that are stock.......I can understand people don't like the car but there are actual slips that prove the person is wrong lol

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That's even worse.

z460 said:

https://soundcloud.com/fordmotorcompany/mustang-exhaust-ringtone

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Sounds like it shifts pretty slow.....compared to the 8 speed in the Camaro.

thePill said:

As stated, the MSRP is lower than 3% and PDI increases output from 25-35hp. The GT gains a little less than $2000 ($33,1xx vs $35,0xx) which is still $2700 less than the cheapest SS. As you go up, the gap gets larger.

460hp is just a taste and an MSRP increase of less than 3% with a refresh AND drivetrain upgrade is total value.

If you really want a Camaro, hold out. There will be a fire sale coming in the Fall/Winter. I'm not 100% convinced the Camaro will even get a refresh in 2019. They need a powertrain upgrade now.

Man, this is a cold-hearted strategy but the Mustang and FoMoCo. What an amazing deal for $35,000.

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Somebody needs to go back to math class.

StangLuver said:

Teslas are lame. Try going fast two or three times and watch the thing overheat or drain the battery so fast you're heading for a light socket.

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I like when people make shit up to sound correct. Clearly you haven't been keeping up with Telsa's or what they can do. There is a guy who destroys all kinds of built street cars in his stock Tesla. He did multiple runs and lost like 2% charge when 1320 was filming him. He has nothing done to the motors/batteries. Just stripped interior. Weighs around 4200lbs I think but puts a big hurt on lots of loud mouth cars. I think the Tesla is FAR from lame. It's pretty damn interesting to say-the-least.

wireeater said:

I like when people make shit up to sound correct. Clearly you haven't been keeping up with Telsa's or what they can do. There is a guy who destroys all kinds of built street cars in his stock Tesla. He did multiple runs and lost like 2% charge when 1320 was filming him. He has nothing done to the motors/batteries. Just stripped interior. Weighs around 4200lbs I think but puts a big hurt on lots of loud mouth cars. I think the Tesla is FAR from lame. It's pretty damn interesting to say-the-least.

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i couldnt agree more.. that tesla is a work of art, and anyone that says that insane mode is lame must be daily driving a f14 fighter jet.