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Old 02-17-2017, 12:58 PM   #886
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Technically, the Cobra Jet and GT4 are Ford Performance offerings, are they not?

I wonder if they count toward the 12 by '20.
Then they are almost there then. Guess I was thinking street legal cars, but I suppose you can take 1 chassis and CALL it a totally seperate performace car. There will be essentially 4 iterations of the GT350? GT350, GT350R, GT4, FR350S? Then there are the Cobra Jet, Mach1 (that we seen is coming), Raptor, Focus RS, Fiesta ST (does that count? HAHA) GT. So basically for the mustang chassis alone, 6, not counting the GT500. haha, 7 total! If thats the case, they only need 1 more before 2020. In a way I'm happy to not give them another cent to tell you the truth.
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It is simple. You are not hearing anything because nothing is coming. Ford does not mention the 20 by 20 anymore because their focus has shifted away from performance. I not even sure if the ford gt will race next year because Penske is fielding a team of honda prototypes next year. Ford is focused on making itself a transportation company not a car company. R and d dollars are being put into electric and self driving vehicles. Fields and bill ford love tech not performance. Now if edsel ran the company it may be a different story.
I really hope you are wrong. And I think Ford will be in deep trouble in the near future if they abandon performance. There are some very vocal people who think the car is a greater enemy to the US than religious fanatics are. I believe those people are greatly outnumbered by people that enjoy driving and like cars. Those majority of people buy lots and lots of pickups that get in the teens or twenties for gas mileage - and they love them. Or they buy performance vehicles. Same thing. Many many people like a vehicle and like having personal transportation. They don't care about the agendas that the dominant mainstream blasts us with every day.
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I really hope you are wrong. And I think Ford will be in deep trouble in the near future if they abandon performance. There are some very vocal people who think the car is a greater enemy to the US than religious fanatics are. I believe those people are greatly outnumbered by people that enjoy driving and like cars. Those majority of people buy lots and lots of pickups that get in the teens or twenties for gas mileage - and they love them. Or they buy performance vehicles. Same thing. Many many people like a vehicle and like having personal transportation. They don't care about the agendas that the dominant mainstream blasts us with every day.
Don't worry he is wrong, this is just the same knee jerk reactions that came when the hybrid mustang got announced. The performance division isn't going anywhere. Most of the people who spew this stuff don't have any clue how these companies operate.
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Sorry but they would be stupid to do so.
It is called the Osborne Effect.
Nothing like killing current sales by talking about future items too early. Although the impact of the loose lips has been debated as to the death of Osborne computer...in the early 1980s there was the Osborne 1 (luggable computer but it could be hauled around as an all in one unit).
Well good ol' Robert Osborne talked about the next version before it was ready....sales of the Osborne 1 dried up as dealers/buyers waited for the next version. There was no next version...no money to put it into production when current sales died....
Slightly early release of info (such as the 2018 Mustang)can help steal media attention away from competitors, too early can kill you... a fine balancing act.
Correct, and that's all fine and dandy but,.............we're talking about Ford here.
Don't forget,...they sell more than just Mustangs. They sell trucks, other cars and vans as well. And,....not everyone is going to buy a Mustang because they either cannot afford the next halo-Mustang or don't/can't wait to buy. Also, buyers could look into competitive vehicles such as the Hellcat and Z06.
But, I do see what you are referring to as laying all your cards down before playing the game.
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Old 02-18-2017, 09:25 AM   #890
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I hope I am wrong. But so far the only people who have been wrong are the ones making claims on a new gt500.
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Old 02-19-2017, 09:44 PM   #891
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'BMacIL' was a Ford engineer until around 08/15.

He posted this in another thread not that long ago.

"Don't lose hope in FP. The GT500 will be a BAMF."
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:55 AM   #892
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It will be a monster. Hard to imagine anybody will be disappointed.
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Your source for " it will be a monster".
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Source ?

Since when did we need those around here.

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It will be a monster. Hard to imagine anybody will be disappointed.
There's always a few! Haha. Not me, but I have other stuff in my sites. This thing took too long to get to market.
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And hopefully they win again this year. I watched the 66 win at Daytona last month. But this year might be the end. I hope not. I hope we get 6 more performance models in two years. I don't think we will. I think the next se mustang will be the hybrid in 2020.
The GT will race for another 2 years (minimum).
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If everyone revealed their sources.........they wouldn't have sources for very long
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I always go with 'BMacIL'.

He saw what was being developed the years he worked at Ford, and he has friends that still work there. So he can say some things...without causing them or himself a problem.
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New fiesta st being shown later this week. Another performance model released that is not a gt500.
1 ford gt
2 gt350
3 gt350 r
4 raptor
5 focus rs
6 focus st
7 fiesta st
8 mustang gt4
9 fr 350s
10 cobra jet
11 bullit?
12 mach 1?
That should complete the list by 2020. Kind of disappointing!
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New fiesta st being shown later this week. Another performance model released that is not a gt500.
1 ford gt
2 gt350
3 gt350 r
4 raptor
5 focus rs
6 focus st
7 fiesta st
8 mustang gt4
9 fr 350s
10 cobra jet
11 bullit?
12 mach 1?
That should complete the list by 2020. Kind of disappointing!
I don't believe race cars were meant to be included on that list. Probably a safe bet we'll have a new Focus ST before 2020, possibly a new Focus RS as well.

I advise you all to continue waiting in suspense.
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