Please Educate Me - Why No Spoiler On Performance Pack?

DarkestHour · Feb 15, 2017

Not quite sure I understand this. The PP replaces the "Track" package yet removes the spoiler. Wouldn't the spoiler be beneficial in a track application?

VinnAY · Feb 15, 2017

You'd have to be running some very high speeds for a spoiler to do anything at all...they're all looks on a street car. Assuming that was the aspect to your question.

tom_sprecher · Feb 15, 2017

At highway speeds they are for looks only. Even above an real benefit requires hours of testing in a wind tunnel, otherwise they cause drag.

Wings are a different thing entirely.

Grintch · Feb 15, 2017

It's an underhanded admission that the standard spoiler is worse than nothing.

The question then becomes, why not design a useful spoiler? Or maybe use the standard (non R) GT350 spoiler.

Grintch · Feb 15, 2017

tom_sprecher said:
At highway speeds they are for looks only. Even above an real benefit requires hours of testing in a wind tunnel, otherwise they cause drag.

Wings are a different thing entirely.

How different? A small wing and a small spoiler are very similar, with if anything the small spoiler being superior.

ghostnote · Feb 15, 2017

Grintch said:
Or maybe use the standard (non R) GT350 spoiler.

Which is what I do.

DarkestHour · Feb 15, 2017

VinnAY said:
You'd have to be running some very high speeds for a spoiler to do anything at all...they're all looks on a street car. Assuming that was the aspect to your question.

Why does the GT350 get one when the "Performance Pack" that is for the track doesn't? Suppose I don't understand the focus on handling/braking and then omitting something useful for the track.

bluebeastsrt · Feb 15, 2017

Grintch said:
How different? A small wing and a small spoiler are very similar, with if anything the small spoiler being superior.

I'm pretty sure the statement above. That your replying to was just misinformation. Look at the Corvette Zo6. It uses a spoiler to supply down force. Another example of spoilers being just as good as a wing is Nascar and NHRA funny cars all the way down to door slammers. In these high end sports. If there was a real advantage to using a wing over a spoiler. Believe me. Someone would have tried it.

wireeater · Feb 15, 2017

They are giving you a blank template to add what ever spoiler would meet your application.

c-rizzle · Feb 15, 2017

Who knows why they did it for the S550, however, they obviously realized it was a mistake as they've added a spoiler/wing to the Performance Pack 2 for the 2018 refresh. I wish my 2017 PP had a spoiler.

And the 2015/2016 GT350 electronics package had a small (probably useless) spoiler, while the GT350 track pack had a large useful spoiler.

NoVaGT · Feb 15, 2017

Aerodynamics are a fickle, funny thing. It could be that a PP car is better balanced at speed without, and that adding a rear wing causes too much understeer.

It could also be that due to some aspect of the shape of the car, unless a rear wing is huge, it does nothing.

Agent_S550 · Feb 15, 2017

I honestly believe it's due to weight primarily. In a "Performance Pack" option, it's meant for optimum performance. Aside from the "Track Pack" Shelby variant, it's a car designed to offer max performance from a GT. I never took the car as a "Track Ready" car off the lot. It simply had the brakes, Torsen, and other parts that made it better equipped than average. The Track Pack Shelby to me is a car that's slung to the masses as the race car of the group. Hence why it gets a spoiler.

Simply put, I think the Performance Pack cars are all about lightweight speed. Add the spoiler you need whether its Drag Racing or Road Course. Its just a blank template of a car.

CB · Feb 15, 2017

It does have a spoiler. It's built into the body work.

DarkestHour · Feb 15, 2017

Agent_S550 said:
I honestly believe it's due to weight primarily. In a "Performance Pack" option, it's meant for optimum performance. Aside from the "Track Pack" Shelby variant, it's a car designed to offer max performance from a GT. I never took the car as a "Track Ready" car off the lot. It simply had the brakes, Torsen, and other parts that made it better equipped than average. The Track Pack Shelby to me is a car that's slung to the masses as the race car of the group. Hence why it gets a spoiler.

Simply put, I think the Performance Pack cars are all about lightweight speed. Add the spoiler you need whether its Drag Racing or Road Course. Its just a blank template of a car.

Yet the PP weighs more than the Standard and also has suspension bits (which are heavy) that the Standard doesn't.

OKC S550 · Feb 15, 2017

Agent_S550 said:
I honestly believe it's due to weight primarily. In a "Performance Pack" option, it's meant for optimum performance. Aside from the "Track Pack" Shelby variant, it's a car designed to offer max performance from a GT. I never took the car as a "Track Ready" car off the lot. It simply had the brakes, Torsen, and other parts that made it better equipped than average. The Track Pack Shelby to me is a car that's slung to the masses as the race car of the group. Hence why it gets a spoiler.

Simply put, I think the Performance Pack cars are all about lightweight speed. Add the spoiler you need whether its Drag Racing or Road Course. Its just a blank template of a car.

So are you saying the TP 350 spoiler actually has a benefit on track?

Please Educate Me - Why No Spoiler On Performance Pack?

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