Whipple'd 2016 throws a P0339

s550stprmtrooper · Feb 11, 2017

veeefour said:
Just saying mate - hope I'm wrong but usually when you get a pop like that and then engine is no worky this means OPG/CS is shot.

The fact the valves hit the piston as you suspect means the cam sprocket is most likely broken. This would not cause any problems with
oil pressure but it will throw a crank sensor code as the cams sensors are in different position now.

Please keep us updated.

Im leaning towards that. Just hoping there are no bent valves.

veeefour · Feb 11, 2017

s550stprmtrooper said:
Im leaning towards that. Just hoping there are no bent valves.

Bent valves would the least of your concern.

Again, I hope I'm wrong but for now I think the cam sprocket cracked, jumper slightly over and your cam timing is now way off - you can try to pop the valve cover off and stick the endoscope there - you should have good view on the cam sprocket.

Brn N Rubr · Feb 12, 2017

Sub'd for more info. Good luck, OP.

s550stprmtrooper · Feb 12, 2017

Brn N Rubr said:
Sub'd for more info. Good luck, OP.

Will do. Prepared for the worst. One of my wholesalers has the Ford Crate long block, in stock. Actually looks like a part number specific for 2017

Brn N Rubr · Feb 12, 2017

s550stprmtrooper said:
Will do. Prepared for the worst. One of my wholesalers has the Ford Crate long block, in stock. Actually looks like a part number specific for 2017

Might be worth looking into a built short block. May be a similar price and then you can turn it up and worry less.

I'm really interested in the tear down because this has the potential to be the first "public" failure of the crank (timing) gear. At least that I've seen. Seems like OPG failures are a dime a dozen in comparison. It would be incrementally more unusual for on to fail and the OPG not failed at the same time. I have seen the one MMR posted a while ago, but then we're also hocking their new billet piece. If someone reads this and can correct me on anything, please do.

Dntalman · Feb 12, 2017

BES Racing Engines. I would call them!
http://www.besracing.com/crate-engines.html

Roh92cp · Feb 12, 2017

s550stprmtrooper said:
Will do. Prepared for the worst. One of my wholesalers has the Ford Crate long block, in stock. Actually looks like a part number specific for 2017

That's what I got when my toasted my 11k motor from OPG failure.

s550stprmtrooper · Feb 12, 2017

Brn N Rubr said:
Might be worth looking into a built short block. May be a similar price and then you can turn it up and worry less.

I'm really interested in the tear down because this has the potential to be the first "public" failure of the crank (timing) gear. At least that I've seen. Seems like OPG failures are a dime a dozen in comparison. It would be incrementally more unusual for on to fail and the OPG not failed at the same time. I have seen the one MMR posted a while ago, but then we're also hocking their new billet piece. If someone reads this and can correct me on anything, please do.

I thought about going built, but the only guy I trust in the Coyote world is MPR. Called him yesterday and he's 12 weeks out. I've already had a '14 on jack stands for 7 months.....

This car is a daily and don't expect to ever take it past 700whp, so if I do wind up with a new crate engine, I'll toss and OPG and Crank gear in it, before I put the ATI balancer on.

Roh92cp · Feb 12, 2017

s550stprmtrooper said:
I thought about going built, but the only guy I trust in the Coyote world is MPR. Called him yesterday and he's 12 weeks out. I've already had a '14 on jack stands for 7 months.....

This car is a daily and don't expect to ever take it past 700whp, so if I do wind up with a new crate engine, I'll toss and OPG and Crank gear in it, before I put the ATI balancer on.

I had the same feelings as you. I first looked at build blocks but then realized my car was never going over 700 whp.

Brn N Rubr · Feb 12, 2017

I haven't priced compared so I don't know what the difference is. I get the DD thing though. That's what mine is. Hence why I won't go E85 or anything crazy.

Roh92cp · Feb 12, 2017

A 2017 crate motor long block, no intake and harness can be had at White Bear Lake Ford for $5100 shipped.

Brn N Rubr · Feb 13, 2017

Wow, long block...that almost seems like a bargain. I would've thought it was higher.

Roh92cp · Feb 13, 2017

Brn N Rubr said:
Wow, long block...that almost seems like a bargain. I would've thought it was higher.

Its a bargain through White bear lake, ask them for there best price on the long block without the intake and harness.

s550stprmtrooper · Feb 13, 2017

Roh92cp said:
A 2017 crate motor long block, no intake and harness can be had at White Bear Lake Ford for $5100 shipped.

Thats a good find! A about the same price, wholesale, but I'd have to pay shipping.

AmericanLegend · Feb 13, 2017

Keep us posted....

I'm guessing the crankshaft position sprocket failed?

http://www.modularmotorsportsracing.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=580

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