Vs the ZL1.....

It is really not the cars, its the people who drive them. They think with all that hp and torque the car is magically going to run 11's or 10's all day long. Without AWD with all that power, it gets harder and harder to run these cars at the strip. Especially with factory tires there is no way to get traction with foot to the metal. Example Hellcat. But looks like Dodge learned their lesson and giving the Demon Challenger 315 Nitto's on all four corners from the factory. If that beast gets AWD as well, just damn!

That engine sucks... Not impressed with the zl1, z06, cts-v..

Look at the stock cts-v vs stock and less powerful m5(outgoing model). This m5 has just outclassed the caddy. What a shame....

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Jules1 said:

That engine sucks... Not impressed with the zl1, z06, cts-v..

Look at the stock cts-v vs stock and less powerful m5(outgoing model). This m5 has just outclassed the caddy. What a shame....

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Ummmmm no. I'm not buying that video.

Jules, that channel belongs to the BMW's fan boy... I would not trust that ^ickhead. I mean it just can't be such a huge difference.
One of the two:
1)That m5 is not stock.
2)Cts-v's driver was trying too much. In other words, it was staged...
It walked that cts v so easy like caddy is a 400hp car or smth. Cant be real. But if it is real, then this is a &ucking shame for the GM...

Jules1 said:

That engine sucks... Not impressed with the zl1, z06, cts-v..

Look at the stock cts-v vs stock and less powerful m5(outgoing model). This m5 has just outclassed the caddy. What a shame....

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Thats a little carried away. I've raced several Zo6s this year. They all trapped 127 or higher in the 1/4. Nothing wrong with that engine. Here's a link with videos to a couple of those races.

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69826

Jules1 said:

That engine sucks... Not impressed with the zl1, z06, cts-v..

Look at the stock cts-v vs stock and less powerful m5(outgoing model). This m5 has just outclassed the caddy. What a shame....

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those engines in fact do not suck. :headbonk:

LMM on Facebook was having a field day with this one......lol. The Chevy guys were all going on and on how the trap speed was fine. Same guys that were giving the Roush crap for trapping under 130....

You can find a brand new zl1 for 57 grand. 8 grand below msrp. 1le's are around 40 41 grand. Lot of camaros are sitting at the dealer lots. Gt350's are still around 57 grand. It is an easy choice for someone without brand loyalty to steer towards to zl1. I wouldn't expect them to go this low. Before they came out, people were speculating 70 plus grand for the zl1's.

Sasuketr said:

You can find a brand new zl1 for 57 grand. 8 grand below msrp. 1le's are around 40 41 grand. Lot of camaros are sitting at the dealer lots. Gt350's are still around 57 grand. It is an easy choice for someone without brand loyalty to steer towards to zl1. I wouldn't expect them to go this low. Before they came out, people were speculating 70 plus grand for the zl1's.

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I was under 45,000 out the door on my Premium 2015 with phase 1 Roush blower with warranty..... I was also running mid 11's all day with stock tires....

Yeh I was going to say I was just under $37k out the door on a GT premium auto with 3.55s. With the Roush supercharger wouldve been right about that, maybe $46 or 47k with an auto.

There is no comparison dollar per hp between the Mustang and Camaro, even if the Camaro is being given away at thousands below MSRP.

670hp at $46k or so or 650hp even at $57k (if you can find one $8k below MSRP)

Blk2015GT said:

Yeh I was going to say I was just under $37k out the door on a GT premium auto with 3.55s. With the Roush supercharger wouldve been right about that, maybe $46 or 47k with an auto.

There is no comparison dollar per hp between the Mustang and Camaro, even if the Camaro is being given away at thousands below MSRP.

670hp at $46k or so or 650hp even at $57k (if you can find one $8k below MSRP)

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I really don't think those who buy a ZL1 buy it just for straight line speed. Your not even comparing apples to apples.

People that buy the ZL1 are only gonna use it as a streetcar or garage queen. A guy that buys a mustang with a blower is gonna street race it or track/drag race it.

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I really don't think those who buy a ZL1 buy it just for straight line speed. Your not even comparing apples to apples.

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No, most will buy it for straight line speed. If you want to turn corners. You'll buy a Corvette or a GT350R. The ZL1 is gonna be a tuff sell. Just like the rest of the Camaro lineup. It's not as fast in a straight line as a Hellcat. Or the Up coming GT500. And it wont turn as good as the GT350 or Grand sport & Z51 Vette.