No idea of gains? It's stated on their website of the GT gains at least.Just got off chat. Now they are saying 8/30/16 but no idea of gains. I guess they have their priorities.......
About frigging time they have a release date, now hopefully they can stick to it!Just got off chat. Now they are saying 8/30/16 but no idea of gains. I guess they have their priorities.......
If they can push back whole month targets I'm sure they'll have no problem pushing back dates. :shrug:About frigging time they have a release date, now hopefully they can stick to it!
They have been giving dates for the last year on the EB. Ford Performance does not make their own hardware for their tunes. They are at the mercy to whom they contract to which is why I think the delay.About frigging time they have a release date, now hopefully they can stick to it!
This CAI is very interesting, and if priced competitively, could make for a very nice upgrade! Thanks for updating us on this.Looks like something is coming soon... Ford Racing dropped part numbers for the cold air kits.
http://www.levittownfordsupercenter...mustang-ecoboost-cold-intake-with-p-3260.html
http://www.levittownfordsupercenter.com/mobile/ford-racing-mustang-ecoboost-cold-intake-p-3261.html
Fits 2015 - 2017 Mustang GT with 2.3L engine
Includes GT350 open element airbox with proprietary inlet housing.
Uses production air hose from inlet to turbocharger making for a quick and easy installation.
For kit with exclusive CARB Legal Ford Performance calibration, see Part Number M-9603-M4
That has been listed since I bought my EB. It was listed even before I bought my EB (when I was looking at what the tuning potential was). I decided to go with Livernois after spending countless hours looking at failures of EB engines, the tunes / mods that were used and what failed on the most obscure recesses of the internet...phew.Looks like something is coming soon... Ford Racing dropped part numbers for the cold air kits.
http://www.levittownfordsupercenter...mustang-ecoboost-cold-intake-with-p-3260.html
http://www.levittownfordsupercenter.com/mobile/ford-racing-mustang-ecoboost-cold-intake-p-3261.html
Fits 2015 - 2017 Mustang GT with 2.3L engine
Includes GT350 open element airbox with proprietary inlet housing.
Uses production air hose from inlet to turbocharger making for a quick and easy installation.
For kit with exclusive CARB Legal Ford Performance calibration, see Part Number M-9603-M4
That has been listed since I bought my EB. It was listed even before I bought my EB (when I was looking at what the tuning potential was). I decided to go with Livernois after spending countless hours looking at failures of EB engines, the tunes / mods that were used and what failed on the most obscure recesses of the internet...phew.
The biggest number of failures by far seem to be the 2.0L in the Focus ST next to the F-150's. Most of the F-150 failures are related to the condensate issue in the IC however, resulting in hydro lock and cracked heads. Now that doesn't mean the 2.0L the least reliable of the EB engines, but rather it seems to be one of the most heavily modded (and unsafely modded) as it's a more practical higher volume car than the mustang, a little better on gas and cheaper. There are a few failures with the Fiesta ST as well, but not too many and again, were tuned and resulted in the knock related failures mentioned in the paragraph below (although it's possible a few were also factory manufacturing defects waiting to happen aka infant mortality issues which would have occurred shortly even on factory PCM software).
The Focus ST failure thread listed a surprisingly high number of Cobb Stage 3 OtS tunes and most of the failure modes were crack heads, rings and wrist pins (maybe a bearing here and there which falls into the same failure cause category). No, I'm not suggest it's necessarily Cobb's fault, but it may introduce additional risk, it's hard to say, but there were a notably large occurrence of Stage 3 tunes and cracked heads / failed rings. There was maybe 1 bent rod which is a sign of engine power limits where the aforementioned failures are primarily related to knock / super knock, which is the primary cause of failure. This is especially true since the heads are not forged, making them the most susceptible to failure, which there have been several occurrences on even bone stock engines in all of the EB's (however these are even more rare than the few tune related failures).
Add that to the fact I actually spoke with Livernois on the phone and asked the following specific questions (and answers):
1. Is there an issue with the catalyst over temp as Ford Racing documented with an un-named aftermarket tune in the ST's? Livernois: No, our software does not push any of the stock components beyond their factory limits in any of our EB software.
2. Do you de-sensitize or in any way alter any of the factor PCM safeguards, including knock sensors to push higher power limits? Livernois: No, every factory safeguard is fully intact, in fact we actually add further safeguards which are not present in the OEM PCM software. (this is probably a very significant contributing factory as to their track record with the EB).
3. Do you increase the boost pressure beyond factory maximums as some of the aftermarket tunes do? Livernois: No, exceeding the factory boost limits would lead to engine failure. (I do not think they are suggesting it will immediately lead to such occurances, but your taking a gamble and there's several 2015 EB owners out there that can attest and maybe 1 or 2 2016 EB owners now too).
I'd like to add that they stated they are full R&D development partners with Ford Moto Co., Ford Racing and one other related to Ford, but I forget what it was. It was my understanding they actually worked with Ford to help develop the factory software but to Ford's specifications...unless I was misinterpreting what they were saying. At the very least it was clear they are full R&D partners with both Ford and Ford Racing, again, why their track record is so good.
If you want a highly reliable oem type of tune alternative to Ford Racing, Livernois is it. Other than going with car specific shop tunes like Tune+, I don't think you can match the track record. What you won't get however is all the extra goodies like live data read outs etc. However you can get quite a bit of that information from plug in blue tooth OBDII modules that cost $20, several of them also log data s well if your curious. And you also get free tunes for life from Livernois if you make any modifications or can request they change certain parameters as long as they don't fall outside the safety limits, in which case they will refuse.