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Old 07-03-2017, 10:10 PM   #4741
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I gladly take the 10hp hit by being able to run 87 octane fuel. Running 91 octane is likely only a 2-3 hp degradation. You have to remember that the camaro demands premium fuel while the mustang allows it's owners a choice. I love having the option.

Keep in mind too, the S550 mustang has been killing it in sales since day one. Judging by sales, Ford gave it's customers exactly what they wanted. Without the S550, I would still be looking at used foxbodys or late 60's mustangs.

I tell you what I don't want. I don't want a cramped interior, tiny trunk opening and shit visibility to save 100lbs of weight...nor would I want a significant price increase to offset said weight.
If you can't afford 93 octane maybe you should buy a Focus SE.
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If you can't afford 93 octane maybe you should buy a Focus SE.
Some states don't sell 93. Best we can find in Utah is 91 unless you go to an airport or racetrack.
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Some states don't sell 93. Best we can find in Utah is 91 unless you go to an airport or racetrack.
I'm pretty sure that 91 will work a whole lot better than 87.
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15-17 Mustang GT is 435hp, Ecoboost is 310hp. 20hp bump for the 18+ is not impossible, but yeah they should use a lighter weight frame like the new f-150.
Those numbers are with 93 octane. States like Cali don't have 93 octane unfortunately. We have to settle for 91 octane at best. Because of that the HP numbers for those of us in those states are not what you quoted.
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I live in California and most places are E10 at the pump. It's actually pretty hard to find pure gas in California. In the winter it goes up to as high as E20 at some stations.
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Even here in the middle of nowhere Wyoming where 91 is the going "premium", I can get 100 of 110 readily. Yes, its $7 and $8 a gal, but to make "93" it's pretty easy:

10 gallons of 93 octane: 91 + 110 = 8.9 gal + 1.1 gal
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The difference between 91 and 93 octane is the altitude where it's sold. 91 octane runs the same in higher altitudes as 93 does down here below sea level.
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If you can't afford 93 octane maybe you should buy a Focus SE.
Who said anything about not being able to "afford" 93 octane?

A few thing for you to consider...

1) 87 is the recommended fuel per the manual.
2) The power difference is less than 10hp. It's small enough that you cannot feel the difference on the street.
3) With a price delta of 0.50 per gallon, I save $450 per year on fuel. Thy my friend is enough to cover most of my insurance.
4) 93 octane will not make your 5.0 run any smoother, cleaner or better. It will not provide any benefit or protection outside of squeaking out the last 10hp Ford enables by adding a small bump in timing.

If someone approached you and told you how to save $450 a year by changing something in your life that is unnoticeable, something that will have no affect on anything you do....would you ignore and mock them?

Or you could think of it this way...What if when you bought your mustang Ford said...hey, for an extra $40/month...we can give you an extra 10hp. The kicker is, this $40/month lasts the life of the vehicle. How much is that 10hp worth? To me, it's sure as hell not worth $40/month for the next 10+ years.

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I'm pretty sure that 91 will work a whole lot better than 87.
Work a whole lot better at what? If you can't feel the difference between 87 and 93, you sure as hell won't be able to notice a difference between 87 and 91.
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Old 07-04-2017, 09:08 AM   #4751
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I run E85, so I am really saving big!
And just look at all of those mods you were able to buy with the money you saved!
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I live in California and most places are E10 at the pump. It's actually pretty hard to find pure gas in California. In the winter it goes up to as high as E20 at some stations.
When I've driven my Mach 1 to Arizona for spring training I swear I got 30 MPG on the highway with The AZ gas and the second I burned all that and got back to California it dropped back to 24-25 MPG.

Now anyone notice first day of ordering for the '18s has dropped to July 24th? WTF?
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Who said anything about not being able to "afford" 93 octane?

A few thing for you to consider...

1) 87 is the recommended fuel per the manual.
2) The power difference is less than 10hp. It's small enough that you cannot feel the difference on the street.
3) With a price delta of 0.50 per gallon, I save $450 per year on fuel. Thy my friend is enough to cover most of my insurance.
4) 93 octane will not make your 5.0 run any smoother, cleaner or better. It will not provide any benefit or protection outside of squeaking out the last 10hp Ford enables by adding a small bump in timing.

If someone approached you and told you how to save $450 a year by changing something in your life that is unnoticeable, something that will have no affect on anything you do....would you ignore and mock them?

Or you could think of it this way...What if when you bought your mustang Ford said...hey, for an extra $40/month...we can give you an extra 10hp. The kicker is, this $40/month lasts the life of the vehicle. How much is that 10hp worth? To me, it's sure as hell not worth $40/month for the next 10+ years.



Work a whole lot better at what? If you can't feel the difference between 87 and 93, you sure as hell won't be able to notice a difference between 87 and 91.
Stick with your 87 if you are happy and you don't feel a difference. I'll
burn 93 and the cost means nothing to me.
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Who said anything about not being able to "afford" 93 octane?

A few thing for you to consider...

1) 87 is the recommended fuel per the manual.
2) The power difference is less than 10hp. It's small enough that you cannot feel the difference on the street.
3) With a price delta of 0.50 per gallon, I save $450 per year on fuel. Thy my friend is enough to cover most of my insurance.
4) 93 octane will not make your 5.0 run any smoother, cleaner or better. It will not provide any benefit or protection outside of squeaking out the last 10hp Ford enables by adding a small bump in timing.

If someone approached you and told you how to save $450 a year by changing something in your life that is unnoticeable, something that will have no affect on anything you do....would you ignore and mock them?

Or you could think of it this way...What if when you bought your mustang Ford said...hey, for an extra $40/month...we can give you an extra 10hp. The kicker is, this $40/month lasts the life of the vehicle. How much is that 10hp worth? To me, it's sure as hell not worth $40/month for the next 10+ years.



Work a whole lot better at what? If you can't feel the difference between 87 and 93, you sure as hell won't be able to notice a difference between 87 and 91.
While you're correct about peak numbers, there is a solid difference in mid-range torque between 93 and 87 (where the added timing advance can have a bigger effect). Tuned you get a lot more out of it still. Worth it for 10 hp? Maybe, maybe not. Worth it for 40? You betcha, particularly because those gains are all over the powerband, not just peak.
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