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But it's faster than the dedicated drag car, the Hellcat. Also faster than the GT500 although I'm not sure that was ever intending to be a drag car. It does that while being a good road course car. It's the car to beat right now Like I said, it does both. I fully expect the GT500, if...

It's a well known fact that engines (including LS) make more power as they get miles on them. I'm pretty sure, if my memory is correct that Z/28 had miles on it, like 5k. That could easily account for 10whp, maybe a little more. So yes, that GT350R could be making a couple more hp now too...

Do you know what a double standard is? HAVE YOU driven a Z/28 or 1LE? for 99% of the world, the best way to compare stats is to read what their capabilities are. Seems like some only want to believe the stats that fall in line with their beliefs and anything else is cheating.

You can't even accept that someone likes the Mustang more but gives credit where credit is due. But look at how close those power peaks are: Car Peak Dyno Power Peak Dyno Torque Shelby GT350 467 hp 374 lb-ft Camaro Z/28 469 hp 438 lb-ft Shelby GT350R 471 hp 376 lb-ft So the GT350R...

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2015/05/and-now-the-preliminary-specifications-of-the-2016-chevy-camaro/ SS and 1le have the same transmission. The z/28 had a slightly more aggressive rear end with less aggressive gears in the transmission. End result is less aggressive gearing. And define...

No and I have no interest either. Look be honest have you driven a z/28 or 1le? You probably don't have interest in that either. From everything I have seen the 1le and z/28 put down similar times and both fall right in between the gt350 and R.

Both 1le and gt350 have 3.73 gears. On the transmissiom side the gt350 has more aggressive gears. For the z28 it got 3.91, but still less agressive transmission gearing.

Which is why I said "hoping". I drove a 2016 5.0 and right away felt it was missing bottom end torque (auto 3.55 iirc). It didn't have what I was looking for in power but I believe the 2018 will between the 5.0 upgrades and 10 speed.

I don't like the 5.2 at all. Sorry man, you don't have to accept it or agree with it. I hate the sound and the torque band. It's no faster than a 455hp Camaro either except maybe 1 or 2mph in the traps. My comparison was also to the 2018 5.0 which we are hoping will have a nice bump in...

Look at it like this. Thr hellcats claim to fame is dragstrip times. The GT350rs claim to fame is track times. The Zl1 at a minimum matches the Hellcat at the strip and it beats the gt350r track times. In what world is that NOT something to be proud of? I don't like the Camaro, I will...

Hardcore by being a terrible daily driver. It made ultimate sacrifices for track times. The GT350 / R is more of a car you can live with. And yes, the wheels are the difference. It's the biggest difference between the GT350 and GT350r in addition to yanking the rear seat. If the 1le and...

They missed the styling mark with the 2016 Camaro and I thought they would somewhat correct it with the Zl1, but it got further from what it needs to be so I have no faith in a MCE. The fact they chose a 1.7L blower still surprises me too and not in a good way. The z06, cts-v and Zl1 should...

z/28 was far more hardcore, which is its problem. It made far more sacrifices than the GT350R. The R's ace in the sleeve is its wheel and tires. I know I'll catch flack for this, but I'm pretty unimpressed with the 5.2 FPC. The new direct injected 5.0 will probably be a much better engine. I...

I really think unless you get a screaming deal on a 17 you will regret it. The 20-30 HP is not the biggest part of the upgrade. There are a lot of improvements the aftermarket will never be able to match, especially if you want a automatic.

How so? It was the highest performing car for 75k when it came out. They raised the bar, Ford raised it further when they released a next gen car. 1le is just a suspension package on a SS that's like 42k. Also sounds like it depends on the track as the z/28 had better times on certain...

I haven't seen any review say it's not balanced. Come on guys, stop making shit up, it's embarrassing. Making fun of the coolers? I thought that would have stopped when the "ultimate track car GT350 was found to be quickly overheating when it doesn't have the optional cooling package. The...

Looks really good. Is this the same nasty pale yellow everyone saw in the early release video that looked terrible? I saw a red one at Chicago and the front looked good. I didn't like the rear though, probably due to that spoiler.

If a suspension package on a SS beats the GT350 that would be pretty embarrassing for Ford.

Liars if they improve upon the ZL1? Are you serious. Wow man, wow. They said best Camaro they've ever built, not the best they ever will build.

Since the information center had the numbers 455 and 470 hidden it, that has been the rumor since day one, so I wouldn't say you were the first or only person to guess 470. :headbonk: