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$31K for a used non premium GT?

I usually do 5 months for $25 deal. The only string is you have to sign up for auto-renewal at the $16 a month rate when the promo ends. So I call every 5 months to cancel and they "check their database" for any offers and usually come back with like 6 months for $60, then when I say no offer...

+1. Saying manufacturers cannot underrate their motors is just silly. My wife's BMW is rated at 320 crank hp and stock ones routinely dyno between 315-325 rwhp. If 1320' is correct, my wife's ZF 8 speed must be magic and her car has zero drivetrain loss. :headbonk:

My wife's new BMW left more contaminants on the clay bar than any personal car I've clayed before. Definitely want to clay a new car to get all the rail dust, post assembly grime, and crud from sitting on the dealer lot off before applying your wax.

If you're trying to determine the best month to purchase, you're not negotiating hard enough. lol

^ Seriously! Was gonna ask about a package deal for both ha.

What was the MSRP. Did that price include your local taxes?

What is the sticker price?

all others being equal, i'd go for number 2...though I'm not familiar with teh value of Ford's Certified program. Compared to #1, a good warranty and the two upgrades are worth a couple hundred more despite the additional miles.

Exactly. Too bad the base price will likely come in mid-40s. We will see a sprinkling of these on the road just like Genesis sedans.

That's crazy.

Thanks for the recommendation. Hopefully I won't need any repairs anytime soon, but good to hear of a quality shop. I have not been satisfied with Classic Collision in the past, and Magnum Collision is a little excessive.

How terrible! Where in Atlanta were you when it happened?

Hahaha, you're payments will total $43K with a zero percent interest rate. Sounds like they rolled an additional $13K in fees, negative equity in your trade, taxes, etc into your loan. :frusty:

Ask a CPA, don't ask other product developers. -a CPA (but not a tax preparer/expert)

I'd recommend: Wash car Clay bar Polish (machine) Glaze (skip) Sealer Wax A glaze fits in between a polish and a sealant, with minor corrective traits (not as effective as polish) and minor gloss enhancement and protection (not as much as sealant). I found glazes in the past gave me...

I don't know about "waaaaay" under. My wife's 340i, though optioned to msrp of $60,800, carries a base price of $47,900. The 440i gran coupe, which this Kia is designed to compete with, starts just a tick higher at $48,300. And for that, you get German quality, BMW refinement, and sub 5 sec...

My wife is a chemical engineer and informed me of the same minimum standards stuff you mention, but she also noted that those top tier stations likely exceed standards through the use of their additives. I feel more comfortable sticking to top tier stations in our premium-only fun cars. In my...

Racetrac is not considered a top tier gas. I go out of my way to fill up at QT or BP even if Racetrac is most convenient. http://www.toptiergas.com/licensedbrands/

Did anyone buy in December? Curious what the current discounts look like on 2016-17 GT Premiums. Biggest advertised discount I've seen is $5K. Wondering if $10K off a $43-45K sticker is possible given these dismal sales.