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  1. Water leaking in on drivers side

    hate to say it but I had the same issue with my 15 gt, I had the windshield redone 2 times and it did nothing. ended up being the welds at the roof line. basically Ford said they would have to pull all the glass and pressurize the cab to find all the air leaks then re-read and paint it...
  2. Did anyone ever do a Perf Pack 2 vs 1LE test?

    no one ever said that wasnt true, but doesn't change the fact that ford cant give you what Chevy does for the same price. and of course there are mustang's as far as the eye could see, who wouldn't want a sports car to teararound Hawaii
  3. Did anyone ever do a Perf Pack 2 vs 1LE test?

    and yea the mustang wins sales for two reasons, it's easier to daily live with, and it sells way more to fleet. take only actual consumer numbers they are alot closer
  4. Did anyone ever do a Perf Pack 2 vs 1LE test?

    first off, never said the mustang sucks, if actually owned 4 compared to my one Camaro including the 2 newest body style and would have an 18 pp2 if ford felt like dealing. difference is I'm not a fanboy and can give praise where its do regardless of manufacturer. and yea the gt350 is a crazy...
  5. Did anyone ever do a Perf Pack 2 vs 1LE test?

    so then what your saying is, ford cant build a comparable mustang for the same price point that Chevy can build the Camaro, and let's be honest the gt500 is gonna come in way more then a zl1 probably closer to Corvette territory. bottom line ford gives you x for y cost and Chevy gives you z for...
  6. Did anyone ever do a Perf Pack 2 vs 1LE test?

    millhouse you sound just like the Camaro fanboys did in the early 2000s with the terminator, the highest class Camaro being the ss and highest class mustang being being the cobra, one being NA one being super charged, to them unfair, to mustang guys it's not their fault ford came to win. just...
  7. Door leak

    yea it's same on mine
  8. Door leak

    its the welds right above the windshield there's a thread somewhere on here about it
  9. Door leak

    it could be the welds on the roof of the car, had this on both sides of my car, it looked like water was running down the inside of the door and my floor would get soaked
  10. 2018 PP2

    when they were first announced I went to two local dealers to try to order one, both wanted 6k Adm. I think they were hoping for a gt350 type thing again
  11. Did anyone ever do a Perf Pack 2 vs 1LE test?

    so putting new tires on the way more expensive car it will be better on the track? I got a 1le for under 40k out the door, and i actually tried to get a pp2 when they were first announced and 4 different dealers kept dicking me around, you aren't touchinga gt350 for 40k so talking about...
  12. Did anyone ever do a Perf Pack 2 vs 1LE test?

    how come every time the 1le vs the gt350 comes up everyone goes right to ya ok the gt350r would kill it. first off he said the gt350 not the r and by all the data we have there's no reason to think a 1le couldn't hang with gt350 and is sure as hell hope a car that can barely be had for under 80k...
  13. Anyone driven a ZL1?

    I don't know much on down force or any of that but I'd have to imagine once you get to the higher speeds it could have some affect, I think the biggest thing between the 2 cars on the mile race is the gearing not down force or because of the wider tires
  14. Is Ford lacking on performance?

    I'm sorry but all this, well if ford put a blower on the gt350 it would kill the zl1 or why are we compairing them when one has 650 and the other has 529 hp, sounds like the old ls1 guys crying about the terminator having a blower on it. bottom line they are compared because of what the car is...
  15. Anyone driven a ZL1?

    completely agree the pp1 should be base and add the pp2 with coolers, although I think the tires might be a bit much if you plan on street driving. I would love a comparison of both cars same time and tires and set up for them. that would be the true test
  16. Anyone driven a ZL1?

    i agree on my 15 pp the tires were a joke and it is upsetting that ford doesn't implement coolers for the car so it could be a good track car that doesn't break the bank. I am also curious though since the pp2 has a decent tire advantage over the 1le what will the response be if it does win and...
  17. Anyone driven a ZL1?

    so what about the drag race done by motor trend, the camaro won the quarter but hot stretch it and the mustang wins. if one track is smaller and consistently runs faster times, even if it is only a second or two, then how is that not gonna happen to the pp2 as well
  18. Anyone driven a ZL1?

    i fully understand we're talking seconds, are there any cars that have run a better time on grattan then willow? if 12 cars run both and all turn a second slower on willow that means the pp2 will also more then likely pull a slower time putting it behind the 1le. and a few seconds could put 2...
  19. Anyone driven a ZL1?

    an almost second difference in an all out track car I'm betting is going to translate to much more in a car that, in Ford's own words, is not a track car. are there any 18 pp1 track times for grattan
  20. Anyone driven a ZL1?

    when the track is almost a 1/4 the size smaller im sure it would make a difference. even your viper times prove that, almost a second difference in that car shows track length will change the time. I'm sorry but If you think the viper going almost a second slower isn't gonna translate over to...


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